Behind the Curtain: What Scares Even Top Health Optimizers

December 3, 2025

In this episode of the Smarter Not Harder Podcast, Dr. Theodore Achacoso, Dr. Scott Sherr, Boomer Anderson, Jodi Duval, and Dr. Allen Bookatz give us one-cent solutions to life’s $64,000 questions that include:
  • How can practitioners recognize their own “clinical kryptonite,” and why do certain conditions — such as cancer or severe mental health disorders — evoke hesitation or discomfort in clinical practice?
  • What should practitioners do when a client is unwilling to participate in their own care, and how can clear boundaries improve treatment outcomes?
  • Why do some mental health cases fail to respond to otherwise effective interventions, and what does this reveal about the complex interplay between trauma, biochemistry, and nervous system dysregulation?
  • How does a health-optimization approach help bridge gaps between traditional illness-based care and cellular-level wellness, especially in complex or “last-resort” cases?
  • What role does practitioner self-awareness play in deciding when to refer a client to someone better suited — whether due to personality mismatch, scope limitations, or specialized expertise?

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro — What Is “Clinical Kryptonite”?

01:12 When Fear Meets Practice: The Early Cancer Cases

03:58 The Challenge of Clients Who Won’t Do the Work

05:42 Why Referrals Matter: Personality Fit, Scope, and Effort

07:00 Childhood Experiences That Shape Clinical Discomfort

08:20 When Mental Health Cases Become Overwhelming

10:02 Why Some Treatments Fail in Severe Trauma and PTSD

11:45 The Power of Self-Awareness and Referral Networks

13:00 When Patients Become “Last Resort” Cases

14:32 Mental Health as a Biochemical Problem

16:00 How Nutrient and Hormone Imbalances Affect the Brain

17:40 System-Level Thinking: Detox, Neurotransmitters, and Networks

19:02 The Limitations of Specialty Medicine vs. Systems Perspective

20:58 Knowing When You’re Out of Your Depth (and What to Do Next)

22:35 What Makes an “Expert”? And Why That’s Limiting

23:30 When Identity With Disease Becomes the Real Kryptonite

25:00 Why Traditional Medicine Struggles With Balance and Optimization

27:00 The Case for Wellness Frameworks in Modern Practice

29:00 Closing Thoughts — Just Because You’re Not Sick Doesn’t Mean You’re Healthy

Full Transcript:

Dr. Ted Achacoso: [00:00:00] Take patients who are already not mindful of their appearance, you know, they smell, they don't take showers, et cetera, you know, because of Abilify for example, right? Uh, there are patients like those, they lose, uh, uh, their sense of personal hygiene. They're, they get fat and so on. So, and these, these are, you know, people that are, uh, you know, because there's nothing else to give them.

And I do understand the motivation behind it, right? But the thing is, it just exacerbates the whole things. Dr. Scott is right. Mental health conditions are really very, very difficult, but you can, with genuine compassion, uh, do still do something about this. Uh, these cases you can balance their hormones, balance their nutrients, and so on, while conferring with their psychiatrists, right?

Yeah. And it's actually very interesting that one of the most open specialties. To what we do is psychiatry.[00:01:00] 

Boomer Anderson: Ooh kryptonite. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Smarter Not Harder podcast. And we're gonna talk about Kryptonite, not the three Door down, three doors down song from the early nineties or two thousands. Superman. Are we gonna go Superman style? Uh, I think they also came out with a song called Loser.

And, uh, in honor of the fact that it is tomorrow, land This weekend we're gonna go in the kryptonite world and, and talk about, uh, client related kryptonite. Uh, but before. Anybody who's watching this, if you're on YouTube listening to this on Apple or wherever, uh, smash that like button, hit subscribe, leave a comment, show your love.

Rate us five stars. But let's, um, let's get into that client kryptonite today, guys, because all of us, uh, I believe the cool kids in marketing speak, call it nicheing, but all of us have clients that we work well with and, uh. Other clients that we may not work so [00:02:00] well with. So, uh, the woman who just got back from Bali, we're gonna turn it over to you.

Uh, sorry to ruin your fund and potentially your tan, but let's get you going today on your clinical kryptonite. 

Jodi Duval: Ooh. All right. I need more time to think about this. No, I, I, I didn't. I've got, I've got a few. Um, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: forget Jodi's always the most well prepared of the, of the, all of us. Always. So, uh, 

Jodi Duval: I dunno what it is.

I don't even, the, don't the anchor and it just sort of like falls into my brain at night while I'm having a shower, while I'm driving. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's, that's it. That's the one I let my brain do. The talking Downloads. Downloads. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Spirit downloads. Yeah. 

Jodi Duval: Yeah. Um. So one of, one of my kryptonites and I've, it's always been my kryptonite is actually, um, client, well, cancer.

So when I first finished my studies as a naturopath, um, it was at the end of my studies and I got out into clinical practice and I said, I [00:03:00] never want to see anyone who has cancer. Um, and as the universe teaches me beautiful lessons, um, I got five cancer patients. So I find that, um, it's, I, I guess it's a, a fear of, of.

Mine initially, um, was, um, cancer and, and around it so familiarization and taught me a lot. But still my kryptonite is, um, I prefer not to treat clients who have cancer. So I have a, a beautiful practitioner within my practice who specializes in cancer. And so I refer, and she's also a Home Hope practitioner, so she, um, knows well all of the integration around that.

So that's one of my kryptonites. Um, my other kryptonite is not so much a condition. Or a, um, uh, uh, a deficiency state or a excess. It's more so clients who are unwilling to do the [00:04:00] work. And so that is my kryptonite. So in my experience now as a practitioner, I, I almost have the, um. Of referring on if clients, um, either not meshed well with me and, and will put in the work and integrate and, um, you know, do the effort.

And I will gladly say to them now, um, if you are not going to or willing. To work with me in this way because I put a lot of effort into your protocols, into your treatment plans, into your research. And it's a two way street here. You know, we're, we're in a, in a relationship, so if you are not willing to work on your half of the relationship, this relationship not working and so goodbye.

Um, and so as, as, as Ted says, um, I sack them. And I inter refer. So I will refer on to a, another home hope practitioner that, um, is going to be able to work with them better, maybe mesh [00:05:00] in personality better as well. So, um, I think romantic 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: sacking, right? 

Boomer Anderson: But that, I think that's actually a, a very good point because Yeah.

You know, when they come into, uh, work with somebody and, and they learn about health optimization medicine. There is a wide network of people by which have their own in individual specializations. One of the actually, uh, beautiful things about the framework is that you can do it standalone, which is essentially what I do.

Uh, or you can bolt it onto an existing practice, which I think many of you here have. And, uh, with within that you get a. Wide range of practitioners that are dealing with, in certain cases, oncology or, um, other very particular instances that might be a better referral. So that was a very good point there at the end, Jody, and I'm sorry, you had to deal with your.

Clinical kryptonite. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: Yeah. You know, I, I, Jody I hope you used, uh, some of my, my, my, uh, lines like [00:06:00] I'm sorry, but I cannot, uh, establish a therapeutic relationship with you. That's my favorite line. I use it like you to refer you to someone else. Yeah. 

Jodi Duval: I think I'm a bit more blunt than you, Ted. I think I'm like this, this not working.

You're not doing the work. Um, I'll find someone else for you. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: It's like, for me it's more like, I'm sorry, we cannot establish a therapeutic rapport or perhaps someone else would be better suited for you. Uh, yeah. For, for this, uh, particular type of 

Boomer Anderson: work, just use that one last week. Diploma. All right. Uh, who do we wanna kick things over to?

Now? I, I think, uh, you know, when you think of kryptonite somewhat related to oxygen, and so I guess we have to go and talk to Dr. Scott himself. at@oxygen.com. 

Yeah, at oxygen do com. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: The Mile Deep Club, everybody. That's my other podcast. We're my OnlyFans account. We haven't decided, right? 

Boomer Anderson: I mean, maybe you have decided and you just haven't told us yet.

Maybe I haven't told [00:07:00] you, and maybe you'll have to 

Dr. Scott Sherr: find out. Actually I know the password. It, is it password or is it 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Password. I would rather do the baseballs password. The, the password is one. Anyway. Anybody who's seen baseballs except for boomer would know what I'm talking about here. It is free on HBO right now.

If anybody does listen to this in July and August, 2025, highly recommended. Um, you know. It's funny, Jody, you mentioned like the, the downloads. I didn't even think about this question until you started talking to, uh, about it just now. The first thing that comes to mind is actually not my experience, but me actually when I was a kid.

So my dad's a chiropractor, as you guys all know, listening or watching, hopefully you know the people that on this, on this call with me. So my father's a chiropractor for 45 years, and as a kid. I grew up in his office, and so initially I was coloring and then eventually I was working in the front desk and everything between, but [00:08:00] I remember like there was a couple patients that would come to see him that fucking scared me.

They would just like scare me and it was because they just had, they had mental health issues and. Like they didn't, they, they, one of 'em was schizophrenic. I remember finding out later, the other one had bipolar. And so, and I was afraid of people that had, um, you know, when I was a kid, I, I also had like the fears of those kinds of things I think related to this and being in my dad's office.

And so even as an adult now. When I have patients that have like significant mental health disorders, like, like bipolar, that's severe, schizophrenia, that's severe, severe, um, or, you know, they just have had like severe mental health trauma, like sexual abuse, uh, physical abuse, um, those are people. I would love to help, but I know that I'm not equipped to help them directly.

Now I know I can help them from like the health optimization perspective and do the mitochondrial work and the, the gut and, but all that stuff [00:09:00] that I can do, if they're severely ill, oftentimes it won't even work on them, even as if it's the right things to give them in quotes because they're just at a place mentally where it's very hard for you to see any significant improvement.

I remember. Yeah, I mean, I've been doing hyperbaric medicine for a long time and I remember there was a couple patients that I work with that had severe, severe PTSD, um, but they also had traumatic brain injuries. And I was like, oh, you know, these brain injuries, hyperbaric therapy's gonna help 'em, no problem.

Like they, they actually, they, they had, you know, a percussion injury, like meaning they had like a blast and they had an injury. They have these kinds of. Cognitive issues as a result of it. Hyperbaric therapy, no problem. It's gonna work because I, I've seen it work, you know, many times before that zero help.

Right. They actually got worse with hyperbaric therapy and not better. And I was like, Hmm. And so over the years, I've had a lot of. Respect for mental health challenges. And so if I see [00:10:00] people that come to me with these things, I know that I'm not the person that they need to see initially, and so this will probably be a referral to people that I trust very much, either somebody that's also trained in, in this kind of work in the health optimization medicine.

Ecosystem that we have, or it could be in, you know, therapists and practitioners and other kinds of things that I know that could be very, very helpful for them. But I mean, I'm not as fearful as I used to be because I know, you know, Dr. Ted and he can talk about some of the amazing things that he's actually seen over the years with some of his patients with bipolar and schizophrenia and, and completely changing their life.

In fact, one of his. Of our early faculty, Dr. Sinia, you know, and, and her, and her stories, right? And so, um, and you know, with that, and that actually changed my mind slightly about the sort of order of operations here in the sense that, you know, sometimes you can do hormone balancing and optimizing mitochondrial function, gut health, and see benefits from mental health perspective.

But I really walk that line, uh, when I, when I talk to people like this and I make sure I have good, good [00:11:00] support because like, I don't. I, I know what I don't know from a mental health perspective. So I think my kryptonite is in that capacity, so that's not, it's not a comfort level for me. So I really try to find, you know, find friends, phone friends, have referrals in place, and making sure that if I'm going to work with them, that I have, that have all that at the same time.

Boomer Anderson: Yeah. One of the things that you just highlighted, both of you actually highlighted there, that I find, uh, fairly unique too. Home Hope is that we we're very self-aware in the sense that we know, uh, the practitioners know what they don't know, and they're, they come with very large referral networks, right?

And so most people within this group, and we also share recommendations, uh, to people, uh, when asked, right? But most people within this group come with a very large network of people and providers that they work with for various, uh, instances, conditions, et cetera. Mean over the years, that network has certainly expanded too, and it becomes a lot more powerful as every network [00:12:00] does.

Dr. Ted Achacoso: It's actually, uh, interesting that, um, Dr. Scott, you know, um, mentioned, uh, mental health issues, right? They're very difficult, right? This is very difficult. However, when I was, um, beginning practice of health authorization medicine, et cetera, you know. Instead of referring the patient to that, uh, or, or client to me at an earlier stage, right?

They would refer the patient to me four years later and they would say, oh, go to Dr. Ko. So he will still be able to do, you know, something with you. We can't do anything for you anymore. Uh, it's like you're, you know, you were the last resort instead of, you know, first, uh, uh, first line in co-managing, uh, the patient.

And, you know, uh, I, I, you know, um, uh, my assistant there is like, uh, says, you know, Dr. Ted, you know, the patient is embroidered, meaning, you know, he's been, he's. Uh, you know, stuck with needles all over the place and has all of these scars in his body because of all the medical interventions that have been done.

And then he, you know, being told that, [00:13:00] Hey, there's nothing more to do with you. Go to Dr. Ted, you know, he'll still be able to do something with you. And, uh, that's, that's, uh, that's of course the, uh, you know, the challenge or, or you know, when you're starting a new framework. Right. Um. But at the same time, it's, uh, actually an irritation because, you know, they know better to have started it this, uh, way, way earlier.

Right. Uh, in terms of, uh, of, uh, the co-management of these kinds of cases, um, you know, especially, you know, schizophrenia, bipolar, you know, they, they usually come to you, you know, with, with, uh, already a lot of, uh, medications, right. Actually exacerbate the health, for example, you know, uh, one of the first things that I do, you know, is like, take, take, take patients who are already extremely, have become extremely obese and, and, uh, you know, have, have become, uh, totally, um, uh, uh, not mindful of their appearance.

You know, they [00:14:00] smell, they don't take showers, et cetera, you know, because of Abilify for example, right? Uh, there are patients like those, they. They lose, uh, uh, their sense of personal hygiene. They're, they get fat and so on. So, and these, these are, uh, you know, people that are, um, you know, because there's nothing else to give them.

And I do understand the motivation behind it, right? But the thing is, it just exacerbates the whole thing. So, you know, Dr. Scott is right and they, it very d. Mental health conditions are really very, very difficult, but you can, with genuine compassion, right? Uh, do still do something about this. Uh, these cases you can balance their hormones, balance their nutrients, and so on while conferring with their psychiatrists, right?

Yeah. And it's actually very interesting that one of the most open specialties to what we do in psychiatry. Right, because they know that they're at the end of their row. It's in, in terms of what to give to their patients. You know, another very open, um, uh, specialty is [00:15:00] neurology because in chronic degenerative diseases, right?

Um, you know, they cannot do or give anything more to the patients, and that when they switch to this, they see that there is improvement, you know, some improvement, some great improvement in, in their patients. So, yeah, that's, that's a, that's a challenge, you know? Uh. Uh, to is, is a challenge to many of us to be referred, uh, um, uh, you know, uh, mental, uh, cases, right?

And, and you, you, uh, and then my point of view is that mental cases are actually physical cases, really, right? Mm-hmm. You start, you'll start, uh, basically, uh, taking a look at the more fundamental parts of how's your self-functioning, right? Uh. The little things like, uh, schizophrenia, you see that, you know, the vitamin B six level is very low.

You see the, the re rein levels are very high, right? So mm-hmm. Uh, the, you know, these are signs of brain inflammation and just being able to [00:16:00] decrease the brain inflammation with the proper, uh, micronutrients, right? You know, there's a improvement in the behavior of the patient, right? Uh, even a tiny one, you know, the, the parents would actually be so grateful that he, he doesn't fly off into a race anymore.

And, and those are the little things that, you know, initially you, you, you're very annoying. And then, you know, here's the joy of the report of being exactly improved. But anyway, I just wanted to contribute to, to what? Thanks, Dan. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. I've learned a lot from, from you because of your cases to feel more comfortable on the nutrient.

Gut hormone optimization front, but still, I think it's really important that you kind of get a sense from where they are and then make sure they have a good amount of psychological support or, you know, trauma support, whatever it might be, so that they can actually navigate that. Because I guess one thing that I've seen is that, you know, people are kind of in that, in that fight or flight thing all the time, you know, it's difficult for them to heal, you know, and so, um, having different ways of approaching, that's [00:17:00] been really helpful.

So yeah. Thanks for contributing, Tim. 

Dr. Allen Bookatz: Yeah, I, I love. This whole conversation here from so many ways, uh, so many different perspectives. The, just the dovetail off of what Ted and Scott are talking about this, like in, in the metabolomics module we talk about how we actually show how all the systems are networked together.

So, and there's a particular diagram where you can see how neurotransmitters are actually synthesized and how if you are not detoxifying your. Glutathione and recycling your homocysteine, then you can't feed in those essential elements to actually help you create your. Neurotransmitters and you can't build them from the building block.

So that's how detoxification can relate to mental health issues. Right. You just don't have the basic neurotransmitters. And then how when our urea cycle's not functioning and we are unable to eliminate that nitrogen waste, it can also block that system. Right? And all these systems are connected. And [00:18:00] so this is a perspective in illness, medicine that we don't have, right?

We're we're, we're very sy we are very system focused, right? And we're specially focused. Someone's gonna look at just a particular area, say a nephrologist, and they're gonna say, okay, my, my focus is the kidneys and the urea, and they're completely missing how the body is not able to detoxify. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: My focus is the kidneys and they're the most important importance in body.

Dr. Allen Bookatz: That's how nephrologist thinks. Mm-hmm. And so when we think about using some of these medicines, which are. Absolutely. It can be lifesavers if you're taking that window of to, I know this isn't really psychiatry, uh, podcast, but if we're taking that window of tolerance down to make life bearable for somebody who's really going through a lot and they're considering suicidal, then then you, we need to, and we're giving them SSRIs.

Then you need to be able to actually have the serotonin of it. You need to be able to make the serotonin so they can eventually improve [00:19:00] their mood and, you know, work on coping skills and have the right kind of therapy. Um, it's just, uh, it's, it's great that Home Hope allows us to sort of have that wider perspective and we can work in tandem with our specialists.

And so, uh, and actually this topic, uh, now going to the original top, I guess I can go, boomer, are you okay if I go so. This, this topic is, is really near and dear to my heart. 'cause as an ER doctor, I mean we are at the mercy of a bunch of subspecialists and we often cannot provide the definitive treatment for most things that are, that are really serious.

Whether it's someone needs surgery, dialysis, um, some other acute intervention, you know, we can kind of get things started and there's, um. There's this process where, where and when, when someone comes to the hospital, we see the patient and we're handing off the patient, but we're stabilizing [00:20:00] all of the basic systems.

So someone, you know, if their kidneys have shut down and, but they're not breathing and, but their main issue is their kidneys, then we need to make sure that we prioritize what's going on first and address those issues such that when we do get the kidneys back online, the person has a functioning respiratory and ventilation system.

And so, and often there, and that's just one, like one example. And so, um, it's, it's humbling. It's, it's been a humbling field to, to work within and, um, we're often. Always made aware of the limitations that we have in terms of our knowledge. 'cause we're always consulting experts and specialists. But the perspective is, is that they know a lot about their one field and we happen to know a lot about lots of different fields.

And so, um, there's a parallel here with Home Hope, because you're gonna be inter, you might send someone to. For me, this would be like, for example, mold. This is just not an area that I'm [00:21:00] very familiar with and I've seen how it, you know, people can have very devastating, uh, like lung and lung issues and pervasive, uh, systemic challenges that makes harm, even hormone balancing and nutrient optimization, really hard to, uh, have them feel and feel better, right.

And improve their quality of life. And there's a lot of lifestyle and there's, there's environmental factors that are required. So while. Wow, 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: isn't that the definition of an expert? One who knows, not one who knows more and more about less and less. 

Dr. Allen Bookatz: Yes. So for, exactly, so for us it's, we have to know, like, you know, don't, don't try to fit some, uh, if you don't feel comfortable managing something, it doesn't mean that you should, you can necessarily hand off the case.

You, you still have a very valuable perspective that you can add and just know that, that this is someone that is in your tool belt that's helping support the care of that patient and you ultimately will have that broader perspective. So my [00:22:00] 2 cents, love that. 

Boomer Anderson: Very cool. All right. All right. So I, I think, look, we've, we've talked a little bit about, uh, various perspectives, uh, today around kryptonite.

We've heard some people say oncology. We've certainly gone down the mental health route, uh, a bit. We have to turn it over to 

Dr. Ted to give us a dismount here. He needs to unmute himself. 

Dr. Allen Bookatz: Does Dr. Ted have any kryptonite, by the way? I don't think that's a. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: I do, my kryptonite is, is not a disease. Right? Uh, you know, um, you know, there are many people who, who, uh, come to me and, you know, various sorts where like, hi, I am diabetic.

They're like already identified with a disease. You know, those are difficult people, right? Uh, because they're identified with, with what, uh, uh, what their cease is. Um, but my real kryptonite.

As [00:23:00] because. You know, be, you know, they are trained in illness, medicine and do not see, you know, they look at pathogenesis, right? They look at the way the disease, uh, actually starts and progresses, et cetera. Whereas I'm looking at pathogenesis. It's like, well, what am I going to do to make you healthy?

Right? What are the origins of health? Is it the origins of disease? And it's a very, very different. Approach. Right? Uh, and then, um, uh, when they, when they say, well, is this evidence-based? Said, no. I said, this is evidence informed, you know, uh, uh, and I asked them like, what Your patient asks for a rosary, you know, in order to heal faster.

I said, is that evidence-based? I said, no, it's not. You give the rosary. Right. So, uh, I said, you, you, the thing is you cannot quantify anything that goes into the healing process. You can, or what you can do. Only seduce statistical [00:24:00] analysis of what? Antibiotics and surgeries, right. With chronic diseases, you know, um, metabolic diseases.

So you, you see all of this multifactorial network events as, uh, Dr. B said, right? So, uh, other doctors, when they come to me, they usually don't last long. Right. Uh, because even this, uh, despite the most open attitude that they have, they will say, oh, I researched this and, you know, it doesn't work for this.

Well, you know, hey, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's not the way it is. It's like we don't give you particular, uh, supplements or particular hormones to treat any disease. Right. We use it to balance something else, right? So, uh, for example, if your estradiol level is high, that. If your're estrodiol levels high, then we, uh, actually, uh, uh, give you, you know, some progesterone, uh, you know, you could see the progesterone level is low, right?

So, so you, you could [00:25:00] see all of this, uh, that's in men, right? Uh, and, uh, so, so you, you could see that, you know, the concept of balance is very foreign, right? To a illness medicine doctors. I once was, you know, I still am, uh, you know, consulted, uh, assigned to virtual and neuroradiologist, even if they don't place anymore.

You know, you never forget, he says already riding a bike. But then for us as a health optimization medicine specialists, right, but riding a bike for us, we teach the people how to ride a bike of wellness, right? So they know what actual balance is all about. So, so, but when they, uh, when they, when they know that feeling of balance in wellness, right?

So, uh, or balance in health, they know when they're falling off the bike and they could easily get back. So, uh, you know, and then, um, you know, with doctors, it's very hard to explain. You know, we know we don't use, uh, [00:26:00] uh, cutoff values for illness. Those are just to prevent you from getting sick, right? But it doesn't optimize your health, right?

So our range of values are called optimal values, those that allow you to survive and thrive, right? Uh, and then. The, uh, the other thing is that they, the, the, the, the thing that's actually confusing to them is, uh, that, you know, since they're so used to randomized controlled trials, et cetera, et cetera, that's for a population of, of individuals, right, of human beings, we are actually looking at the body.

As an ecosystem of cells. So we're not looking at anything else, right? So, so the, the body has its own unique biochemical signature. We call that biochemical individuality, right? So each person will respond differently. That's why we measure, you know, uh, and, uh, each person has a, a, a different uniqueness as, because we look at the body inside ecosystem that is all, uh, incorporated.

The cells are all incorporation and competition. With each other. [00:27:00] So, you know, and that's why my kryptonite is other doctors, because I end up having to, I, I enjoy having to educate them, but I don't really appreciate the stubbornness that comes in. Right. And we are not able to accomplish anything because even if you give them a protocol, they still keep on adjusting the protocol because they think they're.

Better than you are. Right. And, uh, the, the, the, the, uh, the story that, uh, I'd like to end this with is that when I was, uh, newly practicing, you know, clinical omics and the Philippines Health Optimization medicine, a class, anyone called me, uh, and so, you know. Aso, you know, your, your, your patient here, you know, has come up with all of this cramp cycle intermediates and la la, la, la, la, right?

I said, look, you know, I don't purport to know how to read your EKG, so don't purport to know how to read my clinical metabolomic tests. Send the patient back to me and say nothing to my [00:28:00] patient about those tests, because you're not qualified to read them. Right? So, and this is the problem with. Doctors is that they think they're God, you know, they, they think they know everything.

But the thing is, you know, when you ask them fundamentals, basics about a cell and how it does, and how the networks are, they really know nothing about it. And yet we open our mouths and say, you know, um, uh, uh, uh, the, the saddest thing that that has happened to me there is like, um, when people, when other doctors say, Hey, don't take the supplements given the, those are useless.

Just take your antibiotics instead. Right. So, and, and these are kinds of things that actually instead of hurting me, right, uh, actually increase my resolve to, uh, you know, develop health optimization medicine framework and educate physicians and non-physician healthcare practitioners of the framework shift shift.

Perspective away from, uh, disease Yeah. And into health. Uh, it's about time that we did this right. We [00:29:00] were never taught in medical school, you know, how to make the body run optimally. It's, it's always how to repair the body when it's sick, when we don't even know how it optimally runs. Right? We already assume that it's running you, but it's not.

And so, and so the beginning of my lecture always is, you know, just because you are not sick doesn't mean you're healthy. It only means you're not sick.

Boomer Anderson: I think that's a phenomenal way to wrap up our, our Kryptonite episode. I'm gonna punt it over to Dr. Scott here to, to wrap us up proper. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: You got it. Well, thanks everybody for listening to another episode of the Smart Our Harder podcast, where we give you 1 cents solutions to $64,000 questions. If you listen enough to watch Dr.

Ted's nuggets as he just kind of drops 'em on the floor for all of you. Just to, just to just take, and I mean you, the fun thing about this kind of podcast for a boomer, Alan and I, is that we get to listen to Dr. Ted, and this has all been memorialized for all of you, um, in the way. He [00:30:00] describes things. So, um, all you doctors out there, be careful, that's what I'm saying, right?

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Boomer Anderson: Bye. Namaste.

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