Ryan Carter | Redox Before Detox: Ryan Carter’s Health Philosophy

In this episode of the Smarter Not Harder Podcast, Ryan Carter gives us one-cent solutions to life’s $64,000 questions that include:
Why does chasing biohacks, detoxes, and supplements often backfire when foundational health principles are ignored?
Why must energy production, circadian rhythm, and redox balance be restored before attempting detoxification?
When are supplements helpful — and when do they become a distraction from food, lifestyle, and biology?
Why do rigid dietary identities like vegan or carnivore fail to reflect true personalized nutrition?
How can practitioners and individuals make smarter health decisions by focusing on context, nuance, and long-term resilience rather than protocols?
Who is Ryan Carter?

Ryan Carter is a health optimization practitioner and nutritional therapist who works with clients around the world through a fully remote, systems-based practice. Trained through Health Optimization Medicine and Practice (HOMeHOPe), Ryan integrates personalized nutrition, root-cause analysis, circadian rhythm alignment, light exposure, sleep hygiene, movement, breathwork, and biofeedback to help individuals restore energy, resilience, and long-term health. His work emphasizes fundamentals over fads, using both clinical data and lived experience to guide care.
Ryan’s approach is deeply informed by his own personal health journey, which included years of experimentation with supplements, detox protocols, and biohacks that ultimately failed to resolve underlying issues. Through that process, he developed a minimalist philosophy rooted in first principles: restoring energy production, supporting mitochondrial function, and aligning the body with environmental inputs like light, timing, and nutrition before attempting detoxification or aggressive intervention. This perspective shapes his clinical decision-making, including when to test, when to supplement, and when to simplify.
Based in Nicaragua, Ryan has built a location-independent practice that serves clients across the US, UK, Europe, Australia, and beyond. In addition to his clinical work, he publishes a widely read weekly newsletter exploring nuanced health topics and is a co-founder of a UK-based food company that incorporates organ meats into everyday products. Ryan is known for his candid, principled stance on personalized nutrition, his resistance to rigid dietary tribes, and his commitment to helping both individuals and practitioners think more clearly about health in a complex modern world.
What did Ryan and Dr. Scott discuss?

00:00 Intro & why modern health advice creates more confusion than clarity
02:30 Ryan Carter’s background & his personal health journey
06:10 The problem with information overload and “running before learning to walk”
11:45 Why supplements often fail to create real biological change
17:30 Food vs supplements & the limits of nutrient isolation
23:10 Plant vs animal protein, bioavailability, and bioenergetics
29:40 Why Ryan won’t work with rigid dietary tribes (vegan, carnivore, keto)
35:20 Redox before detox: why energy must come first
41:50 Light, circadian rhythm, and mitochondrial function
47:55 Fasting, timing, and when stress becomes counterproductive
52:40 Testing less, observing more, and clinical decision-making
57:30 Building an effective remote health practice
1:02:45 Living Smarter, Not Harder: nature, efficiency, and perspective
Full Transcript:

Ryan Carter: [00:00:00] I think my eureka point was like, I don't really need all these things in my cupboards or traveling around suitcases of supplements and spending. There's no buy-in with supplements. Sure you buy it, but there's no buy-in with your personality with what you change. It's literally just a, a swallow essentially.

Ryan Carter: There's no effort and something needs to change in your biology and it requires effort. To get a result. I don't work with vegans. I haven't got time for them. I'm too busy to basically go through that whole shenanigan of the agenda with me and plants and all that kind of stuff.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Hello and welcome back to the Smarter Harder Podcast, your home for 1 cent Solutions to $64,000 questions. I'm your host again today. My name is Dr. Scouter and it's a pleasure to be back with all of you. So today I had a really fun and cool guest hanging out with me in a coffee shop in [00:01:00] Nicaragua doing his health optimization thing with his clients, Ryan Carter.

Dr. Scott Sherr: So the Vitty is his name on socials and Instagram, and Ryan's been a friend for a long time. I met him in 2019 at the Health Optimization Summit over there in London, I should say. Ryan's a guy that just loves knowledge and has created a practice for himself in Nicaragua where he has a daughter and he just built a house, but his internet went out yesterday, the day before we recorded the podcast because of a thunderstorm.

Dr. Scott Sherr: So he was recording with me from a coffee shop, but it sounded great. He's got some cool technology to be able to do that and a lot of fun to have him on the podcast. So he has a brief bio on Ryan. He is a. Health optimization medicine and practice practitioner. He's been actually trained in our program health optimization practice as he is a practitioner and not a physician at this point, but he's been doing this along with multiple other things.

Dr. Scott Sherr: He actually has a license in nutritional therapy as well. He has multiple methodologies that he uses root cause analysis, personalized nutrition, emphasizing circadian rhythm alignment, [00:02:00] including light exposure and sleep hygiene. Corporation of breath work movement, biofeedback and more. So he works with, you know, clients all over the world on optimizing their health and he does it all remotely.

Dr. Scott Sherr: And so in this particular podcast, I started off with asking him about an email that he sent out to his list that I'm a part of, that I get every week about the five health mistakes that everybody makes that he made. That he's hoping that you don't make as well. And one of the biggest ones is information overload.

Dr. Scott Sherr: So we talk about how to approach that as a consumer of information. We also talk about how to approach it as a physician, or in my case, or in his case as a practitioner, on how to kinda navigate that information, not only to learn it yourself, but also how to. Distill it and to bring it to your clients in a way that's digestible for them.

Dr. Scott Sherr: You're meeting where they're meeting them, where they are, for example. Then from there we talked about supplementation. We talked a lot about when it's appropriate to supplement, when it's not appropriate to supplement how if you live in certain places, at certain times you may need to supplement depending on the situation as, and other [00:03:00] times he just takes magnesium on a regular basis and that's all he needs from when he looks at laboratory data over time and how he watches people over time.

Dr. Scott Sherr: You actually see how less supplementation's likely necessary when you look at the clinical history, you follow people how they feel and objectively, so he uses laboratory data, but he also uses. Conversations and understand how people are doing and clinical histories to really direct him, which I think is really great.

Dr. Scott Sherr: And we also talk about being a vegan, how you know Ryan won't see vegan patients and I typically won't either. And it's non-negotiables and also talked about the bioenergetics, the aspects of plant protein versus animal protein. Potential deuterium depletion as being one of the major reasons why the bioavailability of animal proteins higher than plants.

Dr. Scott Sherr: We don't really know. We talked about supplements, powders, like protein powders, whey versus non whey. We talked about pea protein and plant proteins, and when there might be uses for these things in other, in some circumstances and not in others. There we talked about fasting and we talked about redox before you deduct and how that redox changes throughout the day with light [00:04:00] exposure with melatonin.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Production, et cetera. And at the end we spoke about how Ryan's developed this practice as a telemedicine telepractice and how he does it, how he frames his time and the ins and outs of his practice. So this is a really fun podcast to record with Ryan. I appreciate his time and all of his efforts to promote health optimization, medicine and practice as he does.

Dr. Scott Sherr: So I hope you enjoy it. Without further ado, here is my podcast with Ryan Carter. Oh, and don't forget to like and subscribe below. See you never miss an episode. We'll see ya. Hey, Ryan. Good to see you, man. 

Ryan Carter: Thank you. Thank you for the invite. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: I'm excited to have you. It's kinda been a long time coming and you know, there's a number of things I wanted to have you on the podcast for and number one, I think you're a great wealth of knowledge doing things differently than most people out there when it comes to being a practitioner and a lot of great nuggets and pearls to share working remotely, especially with clients.

Dr. Scott Sherr: And you've been doing this a long time. You and I first met in London 2019, stayed in touch, got certified through the Health Optimization medicine and and practice nonprofit. You're doing that along with everything else. That you do within all the mix. I know you have your own [00:05:00] swing on things and your own health journey to kind of get to where you are and how that's kind of colors everything.

Dr. Scott Sherr: You have an email every week that you send out as well, which is great. I highly recommend everybody sign up for Ryan's well thought out emails every week on things like apple cider Vinegar was one, and certain types of food you can eat to help optimize nutrition and nutrients and things. But Ryan, you're Nicaragua.

Dr. Scott Sherr: You know it's a cool place to be except when you have to be in a coffee shop for a podcast. You never know what's gonna happen. So I wanna talk about, to start off with, there was an email you sent out a little while ago talking about five health mistakes that you've made over the years that you're hoping that other people don't have to make because of it.

Dr. Scott Sherr: I thought we could take maybe one at a time and kind of dig into it and take some circuitous side tangents and things. But start with any of those five that you can remember. And then we can rock it from there. 

Ryan Carter: Well, I just pulled it up so we can do it in order because again, I don't remember why I should sometimes what I say or said yesterday, so the first one's running, running before learning to walk essentially.

Ryan Carter: Maybe that's just in our modern day of information [00:06:00] galore. We hear so many things, what everyone else is doing, what you could be doing. But that might not be applicable for us right now in our reality. So back in the day when my health was a complete shambles in the toilet, I was trying everything, just grasping of different concepts and whether it was coffee enema, colonics.

Ryan Carter: Mm-hmm. And mercury detox with the cut, the protocol hyperbaric oxygen therapy, which I got trained in to be doing. Can't remember it. Yeah. Basically all the biohacks that you hear, the gurus, the experts say, and just like giving it a punt and. Again, it didn't really work. Nothing really stuck. The only thing that really worked was me learning.

Ryan Carter: None of those things worked. It required more of a sophisticated approach. And yeah, health is a bit more complicated than that. But with all that insight and all the years of learning this, the actual actionable take homes are relatively simple. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Mm-hmm. 

Ryan Carter: But [00:07:00] you have to acquire all the wisdom. To get to that level basically.

Ryan Carter: Otherwise, you're just in that mess. You are trapped and you think it's this. You're bouncing from one thing to the other. You're just listening to Huberman lab. Maybe you're just listening to this podcast, or maybe you're just listening to the detox guy. You just get trapped in this sort of tribe or cult, and that's not a personalized approach and thinking as an individual.

Ryan Carter: So you have to break free of that. And. Zero Fs essentially. And that leads on to the second point, which was asking for help. That's super, super important and especially I would say as a male man here, we don't like to ask for help sometimes. We don't like to share our feelings, our emotions, our insecurities.

Ryan Carter: Again, that that comes of, comes in the territory of having poor health. Your confidence, your motivation, your capacity to share things is completely bottom. Mm-hmm. So it's sort of like a catch 22 when you're in that situation [00:08:00] of looking for, okay. Yeah, this one answer and not sharing anything can getting actually decent advice from somebody's viewpoints, basically with more knowledge and wisdom for you.

Ryan Carter: And again, I see this a lot being a clinician now and looking back, I can see so many traits from people where I was obviously not the same, but it's just like it's a continuous thing that I see or just observe in the health and fitness space. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Mm-hmm. Right. So when the first one you talk about is information overload, I think is important, right?

Dr. Scott Sherr: Like as you, when you were trying to figure out your health, you were looking at everything and trying to put everything together and you didn't know how, as a practitioner, when you're trying to put all these things together. It's also very difficult, right? 'cause like what do you get trained in? How do you get trained in it?

Dr. Scott Sherr: What do you start with? Like how do you get optimized in the sense of like your practice, but like through that journey? Like talk to me a little bit about that, right? Because I know you've done a lot of your own work. There's a lot of things we can do with people all the time, right? There's a lot [00:09:00] of things we want to do.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Like if I see somebody tomorrow, I mean, ideally I'd want them to change like 75 different things that they wanna do, right? Yeah. And so like how do you at that point, take that information overload. Like turn it around in the sense that like how do you decide you know what to do, what not to do? Like how, what is your framework now when you work with people so you don't overload people while you're working with them on that side, if that makes sense.

Ryan Carter: It's about understanding the person, their true desires, their true intentions. It's understanding of the why essentially they live life. What more do they want live life doing essentially, and being and feeling. Understanding that, and then basically you would know what do they have the capacity for? Are they ready to do 101 things in the get go?

Ryan Carter: Or again, understanding their routine, their work commitments, their family life, their party lifestyle, their fitness aspirations, their potential [00:10:00] disabilities financially as well. How is that really gonna be fitting and where are we gonna be focusing and prioritizing on basically. So it's just understanding that and then basically making a roadmap of where I would think maybe not actually share that with the client, but where I think we would be going and heading towards and what that look be looking like.

Ryan Carter: Basically with the idea of peeling the onion, there's various layers of the onion and we wanna peel them. We are gonna be very, okay, are you actually eating? Okay? What is your posture looking like for the day? How are you holding yourself up? What time are you going to bed? What time can you wake up? How much light exposure are you getting?

Ryan Carter: Have you consumed sufficient water? What's your mineral status like? Do you actually have the capacity to exercise like the way you are doing or are you burning the candle at both ends? Are you taking too much advice from a personal trainer and not a enough advice? Some like nutritional lifestyle medicine, just, just basic things like that.

Ryan Carter: Me, I, I don't get too caught up with like, okay, the absolutes and a hundred percent of things. [00:11:00] Again, I'm Rev, relatively like 80, 90%, 10%, 20% here and there. Again, I would not put a lot of scrutiny out of every single detail within their kitchen. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Mm-hmm. 

Ryan Carter: I, I would be really emphasizing the lifestyle, the easy wins with like lights, waking up, sleep times, changing the light bulbs.

Ryan Carter: For me, they're very easy things to do, easy enough where some clients would basically be instructing, uh, the helpers, the maid to basically do that. They just need to purchase it basically. Even like some of my clients have, have cooks. Again, that's a very simple change for them. They just wanna get told what to do.

Ryan Carter: But even in it, that's actually a problematic client in my opinion and experience, because they're not really buying into the essence of changing themselves. They would like the idea of things, and it's easy to do. They're not embracing the ins and outs of it, basically. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: I understand what you mean. 

Ryan Carter: It's just figuring out where the client is, what they're capable of doing, and again, that dopamine response of, yeah, things are moving in the right direction.[00:12:00] 

Ryan Carter: I can see finally there's some light at the end of a tunnel. Tunnel, basically. Sometimes that can be a little bit backwards at first, where it might seem we are actually going one step backwards. I've got like terrible diarrhea. I like, I dunno what's happening to me. I'm just like crapping all the time.

Ryan Carter: Mm-hmm. I'm peeing a lot. Okay. Okay. Let's, let's not rush to conclusions. Let's stay relatively focused. Let's maybe change subtle things, maybe reduce the magnesium down. Maybe don't need to go too hard with that. Things will settle. Oh, I feel my body just a bit calmer. The clarity of my thoughts. We are gaining a little progress and a bit of trust within our relationship, and then we can add another piece of the puzzle together.

Ryan Carter: Basically, health is a bit like a puzzle. My job is basically to help you put pieces of the puzzle to together. Again. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: One of the things you also mentioned in this email you sent out was supplements. As the answer. Supplements were the answer, more supplements is better, less supplements is not good. You can't out supplement kind of things.

Dr. Scott Sherr: What was [00:13:00] your evolution here and how do you also approach it with clients? Right. Do you start off with like, you know, for example, when I work with people and I really try to clean up their gut, I might just start off with a gut cleanup first before I go ahead and do like additional things. I mean, so you can think about both sides, you know, like your own personal experience there.

Dr. Scott Sherr: And then how do you kind of frame it with clients or what's your typical framework there when you work with people in supplements? 

Ryan Carter: Yeah. I think my eureka point was like, I don't really need all of these things in my cupboards or traveling around suitcases of supplements and spending, I don't know, $200 on Amazon or whatever I was buying my supplements from.

Ryan Carter: Basically. Again, honestly, right now I just take magnesium. Ha. Having said that, sometimes I would. Try again, methylene blue. Sometimes I would try tyrosine. Sometimes I would maybe take some B two, and that would be some understanding around my genetic variants, such as, mm-hmm. Riboflavin with the Mt HR, and understand that I can, I live in Nicaragua.

Ryan Carter: I don't know if everyone can see me, but I, again, I have an amazing sunan [00:14:00] and I'm in the sun all day, basically. So I'm actually degrading my riboflavin even more so. So therefore, with the genetic, and maybe there's some actually due diligence where I can take. To capsules of riboflavin spread across the week, because again, maybe I don't want to eat liver every single day, or maybe I can't find a good source right now.

Ryan Carter: But again, the eureka moment was like when I was with my friends and I was just like seeing his charade of supplements and his cupboards and I, this is just crazy. And people just sending them supplements to people and then understanding more about the health industry. Where again, it's money orientated for the most part.

Ryan Carter: Yep. Obviously there's some brands that do have good intentions that do the homework around safety and forms and everything else. I actually got a newsletter coming out, seeing an article, the Dark Side of Supplements, and whether you buy it from Amazon or 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah, 

Ryan Carter: the majority of people are just like, okay, I listen to this podcast.

Ryan Carter: Maybe that works. Yeah, I'll just buy some, try it for 20 days. Who knows [00:15:00] if it's working or not. Here's something else, just throw that in and then it adds up to this big stack. And then some people got like 30 stacks. Again, a client yesterday from Hong Kong, she basically is taking resveratrol because one of her doctors said, yeah, it's because of the estrogen.

Ryan Carter: The alpha beta receptor is influenced via, via resveratrol. And again, there is actually some truth there. And I was like, well, you know what? You don't really need a $60 supplement per month. You know what you can do? You can actually just have fresh orange juice. The polyphenols or the bioflavonoids in orange juice can actually have the same effect on that expression.

Ryan Carter: And even then, she's actually not consuming sufficient iodine in the first place, which is probably on the priority scale, more important of the expression of RA receptors. So again, that's where you can get lost in the supplement world, not realize the first principles of how these sort of things really work.

Ryan Carter: And even then, the client on first principles, well, she's waking up at nine o'clock, she's eating her breakfast indoors. And it's like, okay, why don't we just focus on that and actually get [00:16:00] your, like how heme works in your body, better from sunlight exposure. Get that down and maybe then yeah, your, your estrogen or how it's working would be improved.

Ryan Carter: There's a bit of mixed within like personal and clinical world there. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. That's good. I like that. That's a great description of kind of like the nuances there, but I mean, I guess I would sort of reflect back to you, is it. Do you think there are reasons to take supplements? Like if you live in middle of London?

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. Versus in the middle of Hong Kong versus you're living in Nicaragua, right? You have different needs, right? Depending on the situation. 

Ryan Carter: See, I don't subscribe to some people's like, okay, just sunlight drinking, good quarter quality, like or deter depleted water and like grounding all day is enough.

Ryan Carter: Sometimes there is. Need for supplements. And again, we can see that whether it's in blood testing, right, right. Or using something like the HTMA, which I'm not really too much of a fan of or like we know the metabolics test. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Right? 

Ryan Carter: Again, even looking at the microbiome per se, with some question questionable marks around that, we can see, okay, do you have enough B five or do you have enough B [00:17:00] six?

Ryan Carter: And again, we don't need to be adding like 200 milligrams of B six as an example. We can just titrate, start slow, obviously promote food first. Again, now that's not rocket science. Okay? We can prioritize organ meats, seafood, shellfish, if that's applicable, if there's no issues with digestion, obviously, because that is gonna be a bottleneck in the food selection that you are gonna use.

Ryan Carter: And again, just go from there. But again, I personally wouldn't use like a multivitamins with clients. But again, there is definitely occasions someone's under stress. IE, I'm a new parent. My baby's a year and a half. So again, it's a bit settled now. But again, there was sleepless nights. I need to work, I wanna study, I wanna get shit done.

Ryan Carter: So I would use maybe creatine or I might use tyrosine and that has shown to be helpful. Sure. When you have sleep disruptions, right? Am I gonna use that as a bandaid? No, I'm not gonna be ignorant of that. Sleep is number one and obviously improve my my daughter's sleep hygiene. And with time it's gonna get better, but again, I can use supplements in that occasion and not get diluted.

Ryan Carter: That [00:18:00] supplements to the answer. So again, there's a flex of how to use them 

Dr. Scott Sherr: right 

Ryan Carter: in situations in different people. But again, there's obviously many, many contextual variables going into that. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: I think that's a great way to describe it. And I also agree with you. I end up. Seeing a lot of these people that have taken all these different supplements from all these people that they've heard on various platforms that they thought it was gonna be good for X, Y, and Z.

Ryan Carter: Yeah. But the problem with supplements is that there's no, and again, our mutual friend, Dr. Ed knows this as well. There's no buy-in with supplements. Sure, you buy it, but there's no buy-in with your personality. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Hmm. 

Ryan Carter: With what you change. It's literally just a, a swallow essentially. There's no effort and something needs to change in your biology and it requires effort.

Ryan Carter: To get a result and it needs to come with a package of everything else. And unfortunately, most people don't like to do effort. They don't wanna change certain things, right? They like to wake up late, they like to score on their telephone before bed. The idea of being healthy is appealing. So again, supplements is like, oh yeah, I can just take [00:19:00] this.

Ryan Carter: Oh yeah, I can just take this and I don't need to worry about the other co-factors. Going into seafood as an example, or the carnitine or everything else going into the animal meats, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: 200 supplements a day, so you could be vegan kind of thing. E, 

Ryan Carter: exactly. Fit. They're 

Dr. Scott Sherr: simple, that are very big. Platform is talking about these kinds of things.

Ryan Carter: Exactly. To fit my dietary beliefs because again, my diet is my religion and this is what the evidence says and how I. Basically shape the evidence to fit my beliefs. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. A good que this is a question for you from the practitioner side, will you work with people that refuse to do some basic things in the sense that, like do you have like certain criteria, like I certainly do, you know, the way I work with people is that I don't, I won't work with people that smoke, for example.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Like if you smoke cigarettes, like I'm not going to work with you. Now, there might be a, an exception here and there, depending on the situation. Do they have a certain amount of buy-in that you would require as a practitioner? I mean, that's what I'm getting, right? 

Ryan Carter: For sure. It probably would be vegan. Had the capacity to maybe have some organ meats.

Ryan Carter: Okay. That would be fine. Whether that's in pill form, I could probably [00:20:00] stretch at that. And again, I learned that from another person, a nutritional therapist in a space called Elliot Overton, who you might be familiar with as well. He is the man about B one. I don't work with vegans. I haven't got time for them.

Ryan Carter: I don't need to. I'm too busy to basically go through that whole shenanigan of the agenda with meat and plants and all that kind of stuff. It is very difficult. That'd be better off, right? Yeah, it's, it's very difficult. Again, it is possible. If they're willing to, to take things on board, for sure. But again, I, as a practitioner, as a principal, integrity, I wouldn't recommend people taking 15 supplements a day, per se, because they wanna be vegan.

Ryan Carter: But again, even saying that, I would also believe if you live in a place like Nicaragua, you actually have more capacity to be a vegan. So again, if someone's living in a northern hemisphere, London, New York, LA as an example, yeah, that's actually gonna be trickier for you. But you being a vegan in Nicaragua, there's actually some feasibility there.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Gotcha. Yeah. This actually raises an interesting question, right? I mean, as I talk about this with my clients all the [00:21:00] time regarding not wanting to really work with vegan clients for similar reasons, but maybe we can dig into why. What is the challenge that you find in the sense that. Hypothetically, you can get all your amino acids from plants, can't you, Ryan?

Dr. Scott Sherr: Like you can get them all from plant sources. You should be able to get all your micronutrients, mostly from plants, mostly. So, but what's the problem 

Ryan Carter: with it? It's illogical that you can take a pulverized powder from wherever it's come from. Sure. And think that's the same as eating a flesh of an animal, basically.

Ryan Carter: And even then, the imprint of how that thing's been created. By like gourd or evolution or the universe, right, is completely different. And we are talking down on the microscopic level of how these hydrocarbon bonds basically are formed and the sort of ultra weak photon energy that it has within these bonds as well.

Ryan Carter: So again, that goes over a few people's heads, but that's where I come up short. If food is beyond a supplement, food is basically this [00:22:00] matrix. We have no understanding of yet. Basically, the science hasn't really gone there or explored that yet. Again, what we can see is food obviously contains energy, but within that energy there's information, and this information is basically void in supplements.

Ryan Carter: In a way. It's essentially been created, and you can even make the case even from food-based supplements because again, it's basically in like a, the greenhouse or using sprouts and, and in this artificial environment, it hasn't had. The physical law is in place on it, so therefore it's essentially artificial in That's okay.

Ryan Carter: Synthetic. Again, methylene blue is sort of quote unquote synthetic as such. There can be a time and place for that in needs, but again, it shouldn't be the crux of the belief when we look at diets and people in sort of tribe and cults, and it's also for carnivals as well. They're mentally caught up in themselves, basically.

Ryan Carter: Mm-hmm. It's a very interesting head space to be in. Basically. Everybody loves a tribe. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Everybody loves the [00:23:00] tribes and loves that. You know, that feeling of belonging and it happens whether you're vegan or carnivore or keto or whatever, right. But 

Ryan Carter: when I hear that, it's like alarm bells are ringing when they have it and they username or it's in a bio, I'm like, okay.

Ryan Carter: Obviously don't know a lot about health if you're still in that sort of level yet. Most practitioners know what I'm talking about. Where I am, there's this big spectrum. You could be sometimes via carnival, you could be sometimes via maybe more vegan. There could be scarcity without encouraging fasting, more lower carb, as an example.

Ryan Carter: There's this seasonal approach mixed into each sort of diet you wanna go to. Sure. And then obviously on the scale of the individual, depending on their age, depending on their physical activity, and obviously the modern life. That's basically that personalized nutritional angle. Mm-hmm. With some testing.

Ryan Carter: Some quantitative data, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: yes, 

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Ryan Carter: As the years go on, I actually do less testing. Sure. And that is respect to maybe my, how I work with clients and the price that I, I charge. Because again, they're getting that value where we wouldn't need to do extensive testing. Example, a client might be living in mold. [00:25:00] They do a VCR test, which is looking at the, the optic nerve.

Ryan Carter: If it's a bit disturbed with how they see contrast in lines. I've got a video tour, I can actually see some damp marks. It comes with a history of a mold or mycotoxin person to client. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Mm-hmm. 

Ryan Carter: Like why would I need to do a mycotoxin panel right there? Right. Spend 300 pounds, $400 on that test. Why don't we actually get the ball rolling with that?

Ryan Carter: Adding a binder, improve their, redox, their charge, improve their mitochondrial flow, improve energy, because with our energy, we can't even detox. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yes. 

Ryan Carter: Adding a few things there and then maybe if the budget is in a friendly place, we can test in six months down the line if it's still an issue. So it's a bit of a completely different approach to most practitioners.

Ryan Carter: Mm-hmm. Especially the practitioner I learned the most from in my health journey, basically as well. Who improved my health. He's already tested at start test three months, test six months, and again, it obviously burns a hole in my wallet and I didn't actually have money at the time to to do that, so I actually didn't do that.

Ryan Carter: I did [00:26:00] that at the start, but once I actually felt great, I didn't test mycotoxins again. If it was a problem. I didn't test my mercury, of course. Yeah. Or quicksilver again, even though I was eating one kilo of tuna per week because I don't need a validity. One 

Dr. Scott Sherr: kilo. 

Ryan Carter: One kilo bluefin tuna raw per week. But again, it was on top of other issues.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Okay. 

Ryan Carter: Of making mercury a problem. Yeah, it is a lot of tuna. Yeah. But in theory, looking at certain meta analysis, it shouldn't actually be a problem, but it's only because my system's broken. It created a problem basically. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: I see. 

Ryan Carter: And again, there's a lady called Lily Nichols, she's a dietician, but big infertility.

Ryan Carter: I was reading an article last night actually, and she's pointing out, there's several metal analysis that show the more fish that you eat. Yeah, there might be mercury, but actually there's no s adverse effects in neurological function basically. Sure. In actual actual fact, you actually get better health outcomes basically.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Right. 

Ryan Carter: And again, I saw this today, so social media guru, a holistic doctor basically. 'cause like I [00:27:00] don't eat seafood anymore because of the heavy metals and the potential plastics and such. And I feel like that you're such an idiot basically for saying that because you obviously haven't got an open mind and you actually haven't read the data out there.

Ryan Carter: To say such a thing basically as such a blanket statement and think that you can just take a fish or a supplement to replace that. That's a harmful thing to say basically, in my opinion. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. 

Ryan Carter: Um, but again, again, again, bit sidetracked here 

Dr. Scott Sherr: basically. 

Ryan Carter: No, no, that's good. Basically, it's, this is 

Dr. Scott Sherr: what, it's all about's.

Ryan Carter: It's again that recommendation of fish. I went tell every single client to eat a lot of fish basically. Definitely. I'm a big proponent of the marine food chain 'cause it contains certain different things that animal foods don't have and evolution biology. Where you go back way back to how life happened on this planet, we sort of originate from the sea basically as an organism, right?

Ryan Carter: And that, that obviously explains why we have salt in our blood as an example, and the desire for salt. But again, how the thyroid and the brain, how that works and how we. Evolved out of [00:28:00] Africa, basically. It was very pivotal around seafood, and that's brought forward via a guy called Michael Crawford or Sir Michael Crawford, and again, he's got a great book out there.

Dr. Scott Sherr: What are the nutrients in seafood that you don't get in 

Ryan Carter: on? Animals. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. 

Ryan Carter: Yeah, so again, there's obviously some crossover. There's abundance, more zinc, selenium, iodine, B12 copper. The DHEA in substantial amounts is obviously the AA endo acid as well, which is important. Obviously is a ER per se and omega six.

Ryan Carter: But again, it's vital for brain function basically. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: For sure. Yeah. Those are the major 

Ryan Carter: minds. Yeah. But again, it's, it's, it's also going into that with, okay, what else does seafood contain? Well, at this time there was a lot of viruses. There's viruses in the sea, so again, we're also consuming a lot of viruses.

Ryan Carter: And obviously, like you might know, a lot of our genes is a bit of junk, and that is actually from a viral assimilation, basically. Yep. Where does that come from? So again, there's a lot of interesting dots and connecting this up. And I would argue again, you can test your omega free status. We can see that on a test with a [00:29:00] fatty acid profile.

Ryan Carter: And again, it's astonishing as well to see. Sometimes it's low DHA really, really low DHA, and they're still, they're eating a lot of seafood, but it's just so low. And again, there's no high mercury, there's no high arsenic. And even surprising to me, the omega sixes, the DGLA, the GLA, they, they're usually rock bottom as well on the fatty acid profile.

Ryan Carter: Again, you can't resolve inflammation without basically that effect there as well. 'cause again, it's a bit like a seesaw. You actually need inflammation and pain to heal, so you need to stimulate that. So again, you might just be too anti-inflammatory. And again, I remember back in the day in my health journey, I was necking fist left, right center, and I was just like listening to, what's his name, mark Sson at the time.

Ryan Carter: A few of his podcasts and Ben Greenfield. Yeah, you need your omega free at like one to one like Eskimos and stuff like that. And like, sure thing, I'd done it, I'd done it. I was like nicking fish oil for that. That result basically on the blood test to prove the point. It sounded good. Okay, do that. [00:30:00] You get that outcome, you need that result, take the thing, boom, boom, boom, and, and it's achievable.

Ryan Carter: But again, did it help my goals? Did it improve my health? I don't think so. Yeah. 'cause again, it's not in that package of that whole food. It hasn't got the iodine to protect the DHA and that truly makes it very unique and special around a cell membrane. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Gotcha. Yeah. And these are all great points, and I love how you've dove into a lot of the things here are big things that are like small, but you pass 'em very quickly, which is because you do this for a living.

Dr. Scott Sherr: And one of the things I wanted to go back to is that you talked about. Those protein powders, for example, and then getting them from plants and getting all your amino acids and sort of the bioavailability. We actually know from studies that plant amino acids are less bioavailable in general than animal amino acids, even though they quote unquote look the same.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Right? Yeah. And so this is where it comes to that sort of bioenergetic like electric thing that you were talking about. So I just wanna like dive that in, like there is some research there. Yeah, 

Ryan Carter: yeah. Well, number one, so when you think of plants, they actually contain more deuterium. [00:31:00] Some plants, depending on.

Ryan Carter: The C3 or C four photosynthesis capacity, depending where they are around the world, that's gonna have an effect and it's gonna have more traces of deuterium. Now, again, is that gonna explain the differences completely? Maybe not 

Dr. Scott Sherr: right, 

Ryan Carter: but a share, because a large amount of protein is actually hydrated, essentially it, it's actually containing a lot of hydrogen within that.

Ryan Carter: And the animal protein that is low in deuterium, and again, that that's well known. And again, on a small scale like that water, the hydrogen actually influences many things when we're talking about our metabolism. So again, you can change what we're referring to. Deter, which is basically just an isotope of hydrogen.

Ryan Carter: So it's the same thing just with a small little difference with a neutron, basically. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Right? Right. It's somebody that wasn't doing the analysis to look at deuterium status of the am amino acid, which they didn't do in this particular study. It was just 

Ryan Carter: for sure 

Dr. Scott Sherr: the same amino acid is coming from a plant.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Versus the same acid is coming from an animal, but the animal ones are just absorbed better. Right, exactly. And I think deter exactly is one of [00:32:00] those stories, you know, that we just don't understand why that is the case. But it seems like animal protein is a great example of the experience that we have when we have the animal proteins versus the plant proteins and feeling better and actually seeing those numbers change on the various testing that we do.

Ryan Carter: Definitely on top of that, whey protein might be better, but what if someone's got a sulfur issue within their gut? So again, is basically, this is the messy world of personalized nutrition, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: right? 

Ryan Carter: Yeah. I've actually recommended my fair share in certain clients with pea protein as an example, and they might not necessarily be vegan, but a pea protein can have some function in certain cases.

Ryan Carter: Basically, I am working with like a world class tennis star who's got bit of digestive issues. Oh, again, we are gonna go with pea protein and yes, kind of similar, not compared to way, but again, I would also say if your gut is healthy, your health is healthy. Protein is gonna be the best one going forward.

Ryan Carter: Sure. 'cause again, you get a little bit more bang for bark with like the lactoferrin that's contained in there. Mm-hmm. And again, other things that we just don't know, but again, at the end of the day, yeah, I'd always say [00:33:00] whole food opposed to eating a protein powder. But again, a protein powder can have modern day function in my travel is going back a few years.

Ryan Carter: I'm not just gonna. Anywhere, because again, it's usually gonna be fried or who knows where the chicken is from or how it's living. Again, I'm gonna go safe, be, I'm gonna have my like quote unquote grass fed protein powder with a little bit of yogurt and get that down the hatch, and again, function there.

Ryan Carter: So again, it's never really throwing a bath out the bath water with anything because it's all just a tool and it's up to the clinician or again, the general public to sort of work this out. And like I said, working with someone. Helps you bridge this gap, basically. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah, 

for 

Ryan Carter: sure. It's a bit like I have no clue about finances and money and savings and Bitcoin and blah, blah, blah.

Ryan Carter: So again, I would actually hire someone to help me with. Again, same thing. I can't design a website. Okay. I'm gonna get someone to help me design a website with my ideas and pull it to work. With the health, it's slightly different because there's so much health information out [00:34:00] there. It's relatively easy to think you're an expert because you listen to a PhD as an example, and a PhD or device.

Ryan Carter: In theory it is okay. It's nothing wrong with it, but on our level with someone with several issues, it's just not good enough. Yeah, yeah. So you just need to basically pass things out and unfortunately, people with poor health, they slightly make poor decisions. Again, I know I've been there. I've made many poor decisions.

Ryan Carter: Like I just said before, doing colonics, doing coffee, ene animals again, and getting really angry and hitting my dog back in the day and I just doing crazy things, not being a nice person. That was another trait of like having poor health. But again, it was slowly to change that around. Yeah, I don't need to do that.

Ryan Carter: Yeah, maybe it can help, but I'm from coming from a position of power, of wisdom. Yeah. I don't need to do that basically. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Right. Yeah. So Ryan, one thing I wanted to chat with you about. I like this, this phrase, and you kind of made, you mentioned it very briefly as well before. It's like you gotta a redox before you detox.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Okay. And [00:35:00] then I would like you to break that down for us a little bit as to what you mean there. And then also maybe you can color in like any words you have about fasting and some of your philosophy around fasting these days. Those are kinda the two major topics I wanted to chat with you about next.

Ryan Carter: Yeah. So fasting would be influenced by your capacity of your redox Exactly. And what we were 

Dr. Scott Sherr: exactly 

Ryan Carter: describing there. For the practitioners out there, I'd recommend. To see a few YouTube videos of Doug Wallace, and that's obviously mentioned on the curriculum, on our, on the health optimization. Yeah. Yeah.

Ryan Carter: The course basically, and Dr. Ted, he actually puts a few sides of Dr. Doug Wallace. Yeah. And actually goes into the detail without mentioning it, that there's actually a net negative charge on the inner mitochondrial membrane, basically. So. It gets negative, negative, negative, negative, and this is basically the, the redox, the negativity because we are gonna be more electron rich there basically.

Ryan Carter: So electrons are obviously negative and protons are positive. That's basically the sum of things. But again, what goes into that? What [00:36:00] we are looking at, okay, your melatonin levels, what goes into that sort of proxy is vitamin D. Ironically, low vitamin D, low melatonin may be on a saliva test. That's actually a big risk factor for having cancer as an example, because that's gonna be a big reflection of your mitochondria.

Ryan Carter: On a systemic level, on a tissue level, not so much basically, but on a net big system, network level that will do. Uh, but again, the melatonin's gonna be super important because it's gonna be basically recycling regulating apoptosis and autophagy. And again, it's a bit like, yeah, you can take a supplement, but do you think a supplement's actually gonna have the same effect?

Ryan Carter: Now again, you can find some studies to show that telecom melatonin can help, it can improve performance, it can offset jet lag. So again, I mean, I'm not gonna say don't take it in certain situations, like when, sure. I don't know. You might be flying. My client yesterday from Hong Kong, she was taking it because someone told her it was good and she doesn't know that.

Ryan Carter: Again, it's just a reflection of her health, basically like her vitamin D [00:37:00] levels. And again, this client actually had a cancer on her face basically. But again, her vitamin D levels are in the toilet. The redox is gonna be a reflection of your ability to generate energy, but that. Is not the be all and end all.

Ryan Carter: And that's sometimes where you can get caught up in the calorie and calorie out world and sometimes in maybe going too far in the organic acid test in thinking, okay, high citrate levels high, high organic acid is great all the time, and it means there's a good electron flow because these enzymes or these acids are being expressed well.

Ryan Carter: But again, maybe certain times of the day that electron flow is a little bit dormant or slowed down basically. Again, understanding the work of Dr. Jack Cruz, who again, I definitely recommends the practitioners to listen back to that previous episode you've done with him. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Dr. Ta interviewed 

Ryan Carter: him a long time ago.

Ryan Carter: Yeah, great episode. Yeah. Yeah. Good interview. And he explains, and he broke, I think he actually broke down in your podcast, maybe the Cuman stuff a little bit when he was interviewed by [00:38:00] Huberman on the Rick Rub. He's basically explaining that we have nitric oxide, we have vitamin D, and there's actually receptors of both of these influencing the mitochondrial function.

Ryan Carter: And in the middle of the day, he's actually slowed down. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Mm. 

Ryan Carter: And that's influenced via the light coming through and influencing certain semiconductors within our body to regulate the electronic flow, basically of the mitochondria. Now on an organ effect and myself, that might be different in different tissues of the body, basically different.

Ryan Carter: Organs, the systems of the body have a complete different metabolism from the, say the brain or the skin or the liver or the gut. So again, where does that fit with all the, and again, rhythms as well? Tissue basically. Basically, yeah. So again, it is, it's a very big mystery to sort of unfold. That might make sense if we're talking about the skin or if we're talking about the end of fetal cells who are gonna be absorbing a lot of the light saying that, yeah.

Ryan Carter: The a TP production, what we know we are looking at, like red light therapy, it shoots up basically, and using methylene blue, it shoots up. [00:39:00] So again, is there actually a time where we want a big pulsation of oxygen of of a TP in a creation of water in carbon dioxide, which are other byproducts? And that water sort of plays back into sort of the plant animal protein equation of deuterium because the water that we make is deter depleted, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: right?

Ryan Carter: It's very unique and that water actually absorbs light differently from deter water basically. So stepping back like that turns on in the morning. And then it also turns on when the UVA and Uuv BS is going in the afternoon. Right. And maybe where you are in around the world, there's no UVB, so that might mean you actually are more tied to making a TP at certain times of a year.

Ryan Carter: Got it. Opposed to the UVB light exposure. Yeah. Okay. But also coming from my interpretation of that and the wisdom and seeing and feeling this myself in the summertime. When that uuv B is there and there's abundance of food because it's the summertime or autumn, [00:40:00] again, we are gonna be eating more basically, and have the capacity of putting more fluff, basically.

Ryan Carter: And that's when we get more fatty acid synthesis, more cholesterol synthesis. And again, we're priming our body basically for hibernation. Right? For winter. Yeah. What animals like what we used to do, but again, because our modern day, it's all crazy. We're using shade, we're using sbs, we're not getting sun exposure.

Ryan Carter: We're eating foods from around the world. Again, how do we dissect this? How can I represent what I just shared there with a study? Again, basically I can't because the modern human, or even like the clinical trial wouldn't have no confounding factors for that of course. So again, this is just an idea, but it's gonna be led from a client perspective.

Ryan Carter: I can't share that on social media and be like, this is the way and this is how it's done. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Right? This is exactly what I do every single day, and this is exactly what's gonna work. 

Ryan Carter: Yeah. Or everyone or, or everyone needs to do this and this is how it works because it doesn't, how it works. This, this works differently in Kawa.

Ryan Carter: 'cause there's UVB all the time here. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Right, exactly. 

Ryan Carter: And again, [00:41:00] even where you live, there's an elevation. You are, I 

Dr. Scott Sherr: have more UB throughout the year as well because of elevation. So yeah, I mean I think what you're really talking about here is sort of like the true nuances of redox, right? And how this really does shift depending on so many different factors and many that we don't even think about from a practitioner perspective.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Not thinking about how light water and magnetism are affecting these and how the flow. Even changes throughout the day. So if you're looking at somebody's testing and it's in the morning versus if you test it in the afternoon, for example, those things are gonna shift. 

Ryan Carter: Sure. Well, or even I would say if someone was doing grounding before the test, compared to like not grounding, that would actually potentially have an reflection of, say, a blood smear test, essentially with how the clumping of the red blood cells would work together.

Ryan Carter: And again, you can see that on research studies or people's experiments showing on X as an example. Again, I mean we, we are just. Maybe an ignorant of what we don't know and how these co-factors affect what we see and what we think might be going on. But again, as a [00:42:00] clinician, I don't let test or test numbers dictate my approach.

Ryan Carter: Absolutely. Sure. I'm obviously speaking to the person, looking at what they tried before, how they responded to things. Their body language, the way they're speaking, the way they're thinking, their lifestyle, everything. Basically. It's all going into it. I actually had a discovery call from a client a week ago.

Ryan Carter: I don't sell myself to clients, but the expression was a hard sell to sell myself and my approach to him because he was looking at this other person called the detox dude or something like that. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. 

Ryan Carter: And the way this detox dude had it down, it's like, okay, you test on the start, we see your toxins. Then we get the liver moving, then we do the guts, then we add in the binders, and then we retest again and again.

Ryan Carter: I can see that point of view. I can see, yeah, okay, it makes sense. I'm like, again, I can see, understand why people gravitate towards that. But I was, again, explain to the client, well that's very well and easy said and done. But again, how does that change when you stop doing that or Right. They don't really understand the limitations of [00:43:00] that.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah, 

Ryan Carter: and for my approach, it's a little bit hard for people to grasp. Right. 'cause well again, Hoover them and talks about the light. I'm doing the light in the morning and yeah, I'm eating whole food and Yeah. Yeah. What you are saying. Yeah. But again, they don't understand my plan of action like is years and like hours and hours and hours and honestly a fortune of money going into my education to share my opinion.

Ryan Carter: I have my nuance, which very few people with a lot of nuance in this field. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: So you talked about redox before detox, right? 

Ryan Carter: What's the phase one detoxification? Enzyme name? 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Cs, you know, 

Ryan Carter: well, what's the cyps? 

Dr. Scott Sherr: I can't remember the name. It was like the 6 54 50. 

Ryan Carter: What's the purpose of the four 50? 

Dr. Scott Sherr: It's the nanometer wavelength of light.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah, 

Ryan Carter: because they were more activated by that light with the expression of them. And again, what is that light? That's blue light. So again, most people think, summarize, oh, it's it's abundance in red light. Or in fact, the first light comes up is a pulsation of blue light. So the blue light is actually what's [00:44:00] stimulate in the four 50 enzymes now.

Ryan Carter: Now, does that the cy, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: after all 

Ryan Carter: Yes, affect your liver directly? No. The effect is bidirectional and it's affected from your skin and your plasma, which is communicating with your inside of the body from obviously hemoglobin and other heme based chromo like chromophores or, or semiconductors, basically going through your body or proteins as such.

Ryan Carter: So again, they're communicating with your liver to and even your gut where there's also CYP P four 50 enzymes and kidneys to wake up, get the show running, and again, that red light comes in shortly after that blue spike and that's energy production and you can't detox about energy. Like energy and order 

Dr. Scott Sherr: right's.

Ryan Carter: That is the, you said, is the view end of understanding health. And that's again not my words, it's actually Doug Wallace's word. There's an image on the slides of the health association medicine practice. Energy order, and I think there's something on that. Entropy and uncertainty. Yeah. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Entropy and entropy, yeah.

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Dr. Scott Sherr: I think that's like the real clinical pearls. You can't detox without energy, right? If you don't have the energy to start off with, there's no detox that you can do. And again, there's lots of different ways that this all plays out, depending on, on the type of tissue, depending on what's going on.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Cellularly more holistically in the sense of, you know, looking at it from a holobiome perspective. But you know what I, what I find interesting here. Is that people get so stuck on various aspects of this. I appreciate you bringing up the, the anatomy wavelengths of, of light here and energy, but where do you think, where's their aha moments?

Dr. Scott Sherr: Typically, you've been doing this remotely for [00:46:00] a long time, right? You've been in Nicaragua, you were in London before, but seeing people remotely, like I want, what I want to kind of dig into you in the last little while here, before I ask you some rapid fire questions, is. How do you become successful as a remote healthcare practitioner?

Dr. Scott Sherr: How can you engage people on these kinds of things on zooms and like, and not be physically with them? Both from the perspective of helping people, but also just some of the mechanics, uh, of how you do this on a regular basis and keep it so that it works well for you and for them. 

Ryan Carter: Learn a lot and listen to different people's perspectives without basically having it.

Ryan Carter: Their names on my head, and again, there has been times in my journey. When I've been down, like the cruise coal as such and Oh yeah. Suddenly like, get me some on my body all the time and stuff like that. This layer upon layer assimilating, you have two ears, one mouth. Sometimes it's better to zip this and and open these up more a little bit.

Ryan Carter: There's been times when I've been learning too much, I dunno. Eight, 10 hour days of doing a course, reading a book, [00:47:00] listening to a YouTube's podcasts. Round the clock, basically. And it's just like information overload at the same time. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Mm-hmm. 

Ryan Carter: But again, with learning, there should be some structure. There's courses now, there's e-course.

Ryan Carter: There's probably too many courses basically, in my opinion. Yeah. I dunno. Other practitioners out there or other coaches, you want to listen to people with the nuance. With the context. That's where the magic is. It does take some time to acquire that, but you need good health to get there. You need a really good brain.

Ryan Carter: To think partially and not to get offended, and especially in the world of social media to have thick skin, but you also need to be planning for the future. Now, I'm speaking for other practitioners here. You gotta be thinking about your business plan. You gotta be thinking, okay, where do I wanna be working?

Ryan Carter: Who do I want my clients to be? 'cause again, that's gonna dictate your wording on your, on your website, the look of your website, how you, your persona that your dress code as such. Again, most of my consultations, I'm topless, basically. [00:48:00] So again, that might not be an ideal for most clients, basically. But again, some clients I oversee show respect and do wear t-shirts.

Ryan Carter: Yeah, but so again, you need to get an understanding of that direction. Do you wanna go in? That's obviously having a big effect on your life. Life you're living. What do you want with your life? Again? Are you a mother? You've got to look after your, your children. So again, is this just gonna be a part-time thing?

Ryan Carter: And that's totally cool. There's many amazing part-time practitioners out there. You don't need to be a full-time practitioner to, to make decent money, but also enjoy what you do. I think we get caught up about with our ego. Yeah, he needs to be the breast practitioner. But we also wanna, we don't need to know everything.

Ryan Carter: You don't need to go into the detail maybe that I shared or about the metabolic pathways and the organic acid test. Clients don't need to know that kind of stuff. You just need to understand the principles around that, per se, and you only have so much bandwidth in your brain to take in and absorb, essentially.

Ryan Carter: So again, as clinicians, yeah, we do need to make a living, so it's only right to divert some of our time and attention [00:49:00] and invest in that part of our education as well. But again, offloading things like an assistant basically. I do take on clients for, for mentoring as well as clinicians. And I'm like, oh, please just get an assistant.

Ryan Carter: Yes, it'll save you two hours every single day of pointless admin. Basically just please get an assistant, I dunno, from the Philippines or someone like that who speaks very good English, who's amazing. Reward them with bonuses for every client they bring through. Train them up. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. 

Ryan Carter: Again, social media stuff.

Ryan Carter: Please do not do video editing. Don't spend too much time on social media. It is gonna destroy you. And again, I'm speaking with someone with like a half a million followers on Instagram. Again, it is horrible for your body and for your mind. Yeah. Get in, get out. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: On the side of working with actual patients or clients, in your case, what do you feel like some of the best, like maybe clinical pearls that you found the best way to work with people remotely?

Ryan Carter: Yeah, so. Having, so in my case, I can have an open schedule. So again, where I am, my [00:50:00] time zones are actually really favorable for the US clients, but also for the UAE, the Middle East. For the UK it works pretty well. Australia, I actually have quite a few clients from Australia and New Zealand. Again, it works, but again, I open up my schedule within reason.

Ryan Carter: I think being very clear with how you work within your structure. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Mm-hmm. 

Ryan Carter: Sharing, there's some unknowns. We can use tests. I'm in the game to not make money from testing or supplements. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Sure. 

Ryan Carter: So anything that I recommend is, is gonna be discounted price. You are paying me from my brain taking a test and making some side change for that.

Ryan Carter: I don't really like that, but some practitioners do that. I can respect it and see that you need to share value into your potential clients. You need to show the way you sort of think, that you can think that you're just not everybody else, okay? Just take electrolytes and uh, take that vitamin D and just eat liver.

Ryan Carter: And yeah, that advice is out there. I mean, like Paul Saladino is talking about that advice. You need to be thinking better than these people. Basically, you need to show off your, your skills. And [00:51:00] again, maybe that might me calling him out basically sometimes to say that his head's up his ass, so he doesn't really know what he's talking about.

Ryan Carter: Sometimes he doesn't know what he is 

Dr. Scott Sherr: talking about. Some of the times he's 

Ryan Carter: never seen a patient 

Dr. Scott Sherr: or a client in his life. 

Ryan Carter: So I've had several clients come from him, from consultations with him. But again, his intentions are good. Of 

Dr. Scott Sherr: course, 

Ryan Carter: he generally does want to do well and he, I'm sure he helps many people and gets them on their path.

Ryan Carter: And again, I've had many people like that in my experience, whether it's Mark Sisson or Rob Wolf or Dave Asprey. Again, I don't really care much about Dave Asberry right now, but I'm grateful for them, for putting me in this direction, basically. But anyway, I think being confident, sharing, making it easy for people to understand.

Ryan Carter: Mm-hmm. Being very clear. And again, maybe five years ago, I'd probably say like 50% of my income was just going into my education. Literally just like doing courses, courses, courses, courses. A lot of my time reading, but it was also in the same time I was reading on the beach or working on my health. And again, beautifully, it was like this, essentially it was a [00:52:00] match made in heaven, how that worked.

Ryan Carter: And lucky right now that allows me, they're going to take two hours out my time to have this conversation and podcast. I, I've built a home in the jungle. I am peace in my life right now. Right. I've started a meat company in the uk, which in a bit like PO Saladino, but not quite, it incorporates organ meats into things like ground beef, nice sausages, and burgers.

Ryan Carter: There's a 

Dr. Scott Sherr: couple companies like that in the us Yeah. 

Ryan Carter: So, yeah, a bit like Force of Nature, but a UK 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. Version 

Ryan Carter: that's, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: yeah. So I, I like all this, Ryan. I think that, you know, you really kind of, you've figured out yourself the way to go. And so the thing about as a practitioner. Everybody's gonna find their own way.

Dr. Scott Sherr: You know, some people will find that it's much better for them to see people in person and that's totally okay percent. Some people will find that it's a good to have a hybrid. Actually, I like to see a couple people in person. It just kinda keeps me honest by having to be in front of somebody and you do see more and feel more, but if you stay long enough on a call with people, you can also get there too.

Dr. Scott Sherr: It's kinda like the Joe Rogan effect. If you on, you're on a call for somebody for 15 or 30 minutes, you only get like a little bit, but if you get them longer, [00:53:00] you can actually actually feel and see what's actually happening on like a much higher arc. And then if you see people over long periods of time, but.

Dr. Scott Sherr: We're getting to the end of the podcast and I, this has been great as a kind of like a tour de force of like little tidbits of kind of how you think, you know, some of your knowledge base, how you've gotten there, your practice. There was one tool you were talking about that records your whole conversation.

Dr. Scott Sherr: What was that called that you were talking before we started recording that? Yeah, so that's so you don't have to take any notes, right? 

Ryan Carter: Yeah, so again, I think we discussed this before. It was basically when I do a lot of online consultations from around the world. I talk a lot or there's a lot of information being shared.

Ryan Carter: I can't remember everything as well as other things going on, or emergency, my baby or the dogs or monkeys passing by and stuff like, welcome the Broadway. So basically, yeah, so, so basic Or maybe the internet goes and the conversation goes. So again, it's a program called crisp, which basically reduces the noise as well.

Ryan Carter: So right now there's people in the background here. There's a music playing, but maybe this, this program's filtering the majority of it out. It's also note taking automatically. It doesn't work like other programs [00:54:00] which require the participant to basically acknowledge, but it does it in the background.

Dr. Scott Sherr: There's a lot of programs that are coming out like that, which I think is great. So Ryan, before we finish up, thank you for telling me about, 'cause I, I wanted to check that one out myself. So we ask all of our guests, what are three ways that we all can live smarter, not harder? All of your experience, all of your life.

Dr. Scott Sherr: It doesn't have to be through health and wellness. Could be through having a baby. Whatever you say it all, it's all fair game here, man. 

Ryan Carter: Okay. So I'd say having a baby is the ultimate expression of life on this planet. Basically. It's basically the cream of the, hmm, and the ultimate like signature of being human, basically, ultimate experience.

Ryan Carter: And it's like a, a mark of, wow, I'm a human and I'm a healthy, basically 'cause I can create another healthy human, I'd say efficiency, which that means is basically managing your time very well. So just being efficient with everything that you do. Means, yeah, you could be like, okay, I'm all over the place.

Ryan Carter: Busy, busy, busy. But being efficient with your time where you can take in the moment, which you [00:55:00] can save up, that you can turn off your phone. So again, valuing your time and being efficient, your time is superefficient. Efficiency time, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: that's important, 

Ryan Carter: smarter and harder, like being close to nature. There's no escaping it.

Ryan Carter: Again, it will catch you up. That is the ultimate key for, for health and wellness in my opinion. Again, I see it in my own eyes. The people giving out the majority of health are like concrete jungle, and I can just see deficiency of connection with nature. They're paper trust with 

Dr. Scott Sherr: nature 

Ryan Carter: deficiency of connecting with nature, basically.

Ryan Carter: Yeah. Again, you can live in a city. Again, don't get me wrong, you can live in a setting, be totally healthy, but again, what does that mean? You go to city, I'm sure there's parks, there's rivers, there's canals. Go away for the weekends camping. There's so many options for that. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. 

Ryan Carter: Yeah. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Those are great, man.

Dr. Scott Sherr: So having a baby, ultimate expression of life, efficiency, time and nature, nature deficiency, I love those. So, Ryan, tell people where they can find you more information about you. At least sign up your email list if, if anything, because you know, you definitely rock on some good, some good [00:56:00] topics there. 

Ryan Carter: So levite.com, spelled L-I-V-E-V-I-T-A e.com.

Ryan Carter: Again, I'm on X at Levite uk or Instagram, Levite. The sign up to a newsletter you'll can find on my website or on their social media handles. My meat company's called ood.co. I'm a co-founder of that. Come out, hang out with me in the jungle in Nicaragua with some monkeys. Enjoy the thunderstorms, which is happening right now.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Okay. I'm glad we got, it's been a pleasure, man. So thank you so much for being here. I hope to see you at some point in the future, maybe in Nicaragua, maybe if you get yourself on a plane and come someplace in the United States sometime soon too. 

Ryan Carter: Yeah, potentially in Austin and now next Health optimization Summer.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Okay. Well, have a great day and we'll check you soon. Thanks for being here. Thanks so much for tuning into their episode of these Smarter and Harder podcast. We give you 1 cents Solutions to $64,000 questions. This is a fantastic podcast with Ryan. I had so much fun just kind of digging in some really nuanced topics, circadian rhythms, light redox supplements, animals, plants, [00:57:00] vegans, carnivores, keto, the tribal cultures out there, and his clinical telepractice and how he does it all.

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