From Doctor Google to Doctor ChatGPT: The New Clinical Reality

• How is AI transforming the doctor-patient relationship, and what happens when patients trust ChatGPT more than their physician?
• What responsibilities do healthcare practitioners have in teaching patients how to use AI tools safely and accurately?
• Can telemedicine and AI-enhanced diagnostics make medical care more personal — or less human?
• How can clinicians balance empathy, intuition, and data in an era dominated by machine learning?
• What does the future of “play,” creativity, and human connection look like in medicine when technology mediates so much of our care?

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro – From Doctor Google to Doctor ChatGPT
01:18 Patients bringing AI-generated advice to doctors
03:00 The power of prompts and context in AI medical use
04:10 The future of clinician-designed chatbots
05:00 Welcome to the HOMeHOPe Faculty Roundtable
06:25 The importance of play in a practitioner’s life
08:00 Jiu-jitsu, bowel movements, and finding focus through movement
09:35 LSD, psilocybin, and microdosing for creativity and care
11:00 Musical play and AI songwriting as medicine
13:20 How music builds connection, oxytocin, and longevity
15:30 Solitude vs. connection – reframing the “relationship = longevity” dogma
17:00 The identity trap in medicine — and why play is the antidote
18:45 Kids, baseball cards, and rediscovering wonder
21:15 Movement as the ultimate mind reset
22:00 Treating life like a video game — Dr. Ted’s philosophy
25:00 The three assets: Life, Health, and Time
27:00 Morbidity compression and why quality trumps longevity
30:00 The ultimate mic drop: dance with life, don’t grip it too tightly
31:30 Outro – One-cent solutions for playful longevity

Full Transcript:

Dr. Ted Achacoso: [00:00:00] I had a, a pin that was given to me by someone. You know, it says, trust me, I'm from the IRS. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: I think people trust doctors more than they trust the IRS. Right? 

Dr. Jup Kuipers: I hope so. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Maybe that's, maybe that's the past. Maybe that's like the old doctor thing that used to trust the doctor. Yeah. Maybe half and half now.

Dr. Ted Achacoso: Yeah. Not those. The doctors 

who are smoking ca, those are the, uh, doctors who are, who are smoking camels. That's who you should trust, right. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Now it's now, it used to be Dr. Google. Now it's Dr. Chad, GPT. Claude, yeah. Gemini, blah, blah, blah. Right. I have all these patients that come in now with, this is what Claude says I should do.

This is what Chad PT says I should do. What do you think about this? And then that's, that's the consult. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: No, no. For me it's more concur. I, I, I get that now. And I say, okay, [00:01:00] can you show me your prompt please? Because it's all about the prompt and the context. You know, you may be coming out with this, but what's the prompt and the context?

Well, everybody was there. There's always a good pushback. You see. It's like, no, sweetheart, you're, you know, you, you have to give me your prompt and context. Otherwise, the, um, you know, the, uh, chat GPT as, as you know, the, the recent. The recent crisis where it becomes so seco, right? Oh yes. You really had that 

Dr. Scott Sherr: disease.

Yeah. It becomes very much a, like it kind does that all the time. Like it tries to give you like the pat on the back, like you are doing a good job. Yeah. If you're not doing a good job kind of deal. Yeah. They tried to, 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: they, they're trying to repair that. There's actually an article this morning too about, uh, how you prompt chat GPT when you give it examples, changes the weights of the.

Network. So that's a new study and that's why I said if [00:02:00] everyone keeps this using the same prom right, then it'll just respond the same way because it's activating the same way. But if you give it examples, right? And then, um, uh, it actually learns from the example, so you know. So, so for example, if you're looking at home cases and, you know, your, your client comes in with a, uh, you know, it's like, this is what Achi told me to do.

Look at all my deficiencies, et cetera, et cetera. And I go, oh, would you like to enroll in our home Hope, uh, module, uh, modules in our course so you could actually know what this means? So 

Dr. Scott Sherr: well, it sounds like we have to start. Giving our patients and clients their prompts so that if they're gonna use chat, bt at least the promises are correct, so that they'll get better answers as opposed to not giving them prompts.

Dr. Ted Achacoso: No. Or, or better yet, you know, we should release our, um, our chat bot, uh, with, uh, RET [00:03:00] mac degeneration so that it actually answers properly and not in a general way. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Well, that's, yeah, that's the future. The practitioner of the future, which we'll talk about at some point soon. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: Yeah. Like, uh, when you prompt cha GBT and it says, okay, it's like milk is good for you and the patient's actually lactose intolerant.

So, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: well, speaking of not fun. And fun and play. I'm trying to make a transition to, to playful things. Ah, so that's what this podcast is all about. So everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Smart Not Harder podcast, where we give you 1 cent solutions to $64,000 questions. We are your hosts. Uh, this is the faculty here at Home Hope at Health Optimization Medicine and Practice.

And it's always good back. Good to be back with all of you. And we have Spain, we have dc, we have Colorado today. And it's exciting to talk about a fun topic. Uh, our our colleague, Jody Duvall, likes to give us good topics, and today's topic is. Well, what are the things that we do to play now? There's [00:04:00] work in play and all things work and no play.

Make Jack a dull boy, I've heard. Or maybe Ted or a Boomer or, you know, boomer's not here, but that probably would be Boomer's Fond is just work and no play. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: Hey dude, my work is play and my plays 

Dr. Jup Kuipers: work. Mm-hmm. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: Mm-hmm. Are you still in caa? Bravo? Yep, 

Dr. Jup Kuipers: I'm I'm playing very much. My goodness. My goodness. Yeah, today my newest strategy.

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah, go. Go ahead. So yeah, because you are the one that's in Spain in the coast of Brava, um, and you are the European on our team here that seems to understand play better than the rest of us combined maybe. Um, so fucking absolutely molecular play, man. Um, so maybe let's start off with you actually. How do you do work number one, and then maybe what we could talk about how 

Dr. Jup Kuipers: I share my God play fits.

I don't, it's my new strategy. Now I've been enjoying the revolution of us being able to use [00:05:00] telemedicine very much. 'cause this enables us to like have more control over our schedule to do stuff like play. So play, play, play. How do we do it? We all know as healthcare practitioners. The wheels just keep turning in your mind about patience, about charge, about things you need to do, and then also imagining your life at home, chores, et cetera.

So play for me. Has always been something, um, through which I can distract myself from the mundane task or the demanding task of work. Um, and for me, that's always been movement. So having a movement practice is the biggest thing for me. Um, and the thing I like most is practice. Yeah. Brazilian. Brazilian jiujitsu is my number one because.

There's nothing like a 200 pound guy trying to choke you unconscious to like focus your mind and not think [00:06:00] about the patients you've seen that day. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: Um. Funny you say that. Funny you say that about, uh, you know, uh, movement at your age. For me, you know, bowel movement is the best movement ever at my age. Uh, does that choke you unconscious?

No, I get 

Dr. Scott Sherr: dehydrated, you know, and Salva can do it. You know, I can make you pass out if you're not careful, 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: depending on how, how high the movement is. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, could be, could be any, 

Dr. Jup Kuipers: yeah, could be any type of movement, I guess. If you exert yourself like on a extreme level, everything after that just becomes so much more easy.

It's a bit of a cliche, but getting comfortable, being uncomfortable is a really great way for me to like find the rest of the day much more easy and being able to find that playful spirit in, huh, this isn't that bad. I mean, it's not as as bad as getting choked unconscious. [00:07:00] And, but that's, it's a bit of the, well, that, 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: that can be erotic for some people, right?

Mm-hmm. I've heard, you know, like, uh, 

Dr. Jup Kuipers: autoerotic fixation. I, I bet Alan you see some of those on the emergency departments going a bit too far with their 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: plate. Yeah, yeah. On occasion. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. The, the, uh, David David ine special, isn't it? 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah, it was a famous, famous, uh, grunge rocker that was rumored to have died that way.

Chris Cornell, one of the best singers of all time. Yeah. So is 

Dr. Jup Kuipers: that how he got that raspy voice, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: I guess maybe all that over the years? Yeah, man, it was, it was fantastic. Maybe, I don't know, maybe there's something to it. I don't know.

So moving into your thing. 

Dr. Jup Kuipers: Yeah, that's, that's a one. That's what, it's being hard on yourself. And the other side of it is showing yourself lots of love, you know? And I mean, as someone who grew up in the Netherlands, in Amsterdam, I used to like [00:08:00] smoke a lot of weed as a kid. And that would be a way to like, shut off your, your thoughts.

Um, at, at, that's not very productive though, but still once in a while it could be very nice, like to get out of your mind and into your body. Smoke a nice little, very sophisticated joint. And if you couple that one, still do that. Jesus, I have, I have better molecules than that man. I was coming to that Ted, so my go-to are other molecule, other molecules.

Now my favorite is LSD, microdosing or psilocybin. But at Home Hub we're all about work, play integration, aren't we? So how do we integrate play into work? As a gp, that's still a bit of a no-no. So I don't microdose while, while seeing things at the practice, but now that I'm in the cost of bra and you have your own telemedicine practice and you're reviewing like metabolomic charts, it's much easier you and responsible to like [00:09:00] microdose a little bit and be creative while working and having fun and like, um, yeah, doing both work and play at the same time.

Dr. Scott Sherr: I love 

Dr. Jup Kuipers: it. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: I love it. I think the integration important. That's fascinating. Yeah. Dr. Buca, go ahead, please. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: No, I just, uh, it's interesting, right? You mentioned like we know that psilocybin increases the interconnectivity of different brain regions, right? And in home hope we do talk about the networked concept, right?

Of different systems that we don't look at a particular organ system. Or a scale in isolation that everything is talking to everything. And that's probably what makes us really special is that we try to balance things like hormones. We don't look at just the thyroid and say, how do we fix the thyroid?

We look at the relation of the thyroid. And the adrenals and or the pineal gland and the pancreas, and we're looking at all of these things 'cause they are all interrelated. So I just think that's very fascinating that you mentioned that in reviewing a [00:10:00] metabolomics chart, which you're looking at the integration and the connection across multiple systems while.

You are also, you know, highly integrated as well. Hmm. I like it. Wow. You're, you're, you're, you're doing the te the te Chaa wrap up. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: What's, what's play, Dr. Lucas, Dr. Buca? Yes. Please answer the question. Directly I was playing. Me please. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: Alright. What's playing? Yeah. I know it's hard for you 

Dr. Scott Sherr: in your current state of mind, but you can do this.

I would say. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: Alright. Yeah. Yeah. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Hey, he's 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: not on anything. There's nothing. There's nothing. Yeah. High, high on life. High on life. So I would say the, the most recent thing that I've found, so I've always had a desire to be musical, right? And, but there are people that are naturally have. Musical and have rhythm and can sing and, and just know how to play instruments.

And then there are people that really, really [00:11:00] want to do that. Cannot carry a tune. Yeah. Carry a tune. Like when they do the We love you, Alan hit the, you love you Allen. You know, the, like, I just, I've always been wrong. I've always been like the always off no matter what. And you can show me it a million times.

And so I discovered that you can use AI to help you create music. And what's really nice about it is that it removes like this pressure of being able to create poetry and lyrics from scratch. And so you can just say, Hey, help me create the basics of a song based on these things. Right? And you can have fun and make it a birthday song for a friend or family member that is unique and tailored to them.

It can be about, you know, metaphysical topics. It can be also synthesizing things that are hard to remember. And you're trying to just infuse into your awareness and ether. And sometimes the best way to do that is through music. And so you don't need to like create lyrics from scratch. You can, it can give you this like beautiful [00:12:00] starting point with themes and melodies and, and from there you can sort of choose how to, you can use it like, I don't know, I call it like a songwriting buddy.

So if you don't like a particular line. You can say, give me, you know, five variations of this and, and you know, I want something like this. And then it'll give you some variations and you can then play around with it. And then once you sort of have the basics of what you want, then you can have a lot of fun and put it to, and you can like mix together different styles.

So you could take, say a West Coast wrap. And you can combine that with choral music, which is a very strange combination. Fantastic. I think Dr. Scott, well, a Scott might have a song similar to that, that, that, uh, Alan, I'm more interested in what you do while you're playing the music. I've heard He is a very good dancer.

Those, those, the bus. Yeah. Let's just say those, those same, those same lack of, you know, rhythm and musical skills also seem to [00:13:00] translate into lack of like rhythm and movement, right. And dancing. So, uh, yeah. But, but, but, uh, just for our listeners here, you know, Dr. Allen is very, really, very good, uh, uh, interpretative dancing when it's its own music.

You know, uh, it's com complete with all the, the arm expressions. The, the steps. True. You know? Yeah. And, you know, gives, and the facial expression, you know, the hair flip and the snobby look, you know, it's all complete with this interpreting his own saw. Maybe we'll have another podcast episode where we can, you know, go through one of these.

Dr. Scott Sherr: I, I love mu, I mean, I've been a big music fan for a long time, as you know, Alan. I think it's great. Mm-hmm. As a way, that's how I got through medical school. Um, and, you know, part of college is having a guitar to play, having a band guitar, right? Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. A little bit of, I was in like a trio when I was in, I was in a trio with.

Yeah. With two other people in, in college, and then I'd, but we [00:14:00] kind of had a couple of other people that joined us on occasion. And then we had a, a band in medical school. So, uh, music has always been a big thing for me as a, as a way, at least. It used to be much more of a thing when I was younger. Well, we know.

I'm pleasure. You resurging. It's, it's good. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: Well, we know when we talk about some of Dr. Ted's. Uh, uh, health optimization tenets, which is, you know, move, well relate, well love, well sleep well. When, when we are able to engage in these creative endeavors, we do know that it does lower cortisol and it boosts our natural feel good molecules like dopamine, serotonin.

Then when we're doing this together, like Dr. Sher and I had the opportunity to create a song together and we were singing and we were collaborating, and it was so much fun. We're actually also creating oxytocin together, right? And these are really important neurochemicals for bonding and friendship. And when we look at the studies that look at longevity and those that, uh, like the most important drivers for, uh, a long health span and lifespan, [00:15:00] it's about the relationships that we have with each other.

So. Bringing it back to home. Hope there, in addition to interpretive dancing. Lovely. Wow. Done. I'll take, I'll take a notes. You know, I, I just like to say something about what Alan said, right? Um, right now it's very Californian to say, you know, it's the social relationships, it's uh, you know, Briggs, et cetera.

You know, those are new studies. It's like now we're inundated with social, social, social, social. Right. You know, but, but this is just an era now where it's like, oh, okay, it's your social relationships. But before you know, uh, you know, the, the, the people would go on, you know, um, uh, solitary, uh, vacations, you know, to, to de-stress themselves as to remove themselves.

So people, because they're with people all the time. Right. So, uh, so now what's, uh, going on is that, you know, the, the. Um, uh, uh, camps that you have, right? Are these detox camps where you're not allowed to use your cell phone? Mm-hmm. You're, you're alone in your [00:16:00] cabin or your hot, you know, and on you're, you're kept away from other people.

Can you imagine that? We used to do that before, right? And now you have to pay, you know, to pay sounds. 

Dr. Jup Kuipers: Delicious. Love it Alan. Love it. Can, can I ask you, like, when you work in the er, I mean that's so high stress as an environment. Are there things you do like to keep it playful or when you notice like you're getting too serious?

Is there something you, I mean, 

Dr. Allen Bookatz: yeah, 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: I 

Dr. Allen Bookatz: think 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: is always serious. You know, you know, I think the team is always serious. Yeah, I, I think it's easy. So for those of us that do work in intensive settings, whether the er or the hospital or clinics, you know, it's very, it is, uh, very common for us to get wrapped up in the role that we're playing and forget that, that we're part of a team and, and that we are just playing a role, right?

And that isn't our identity. So if, and that isn't really who, who [00:17:00] we are. So when we're in it and we're playing the role and say you're doing the best you can, and someone is really sick and they don't make it. It's easy to, to, to, to assume that you, that you failed, right? And, but really you played the role of someone who was there to help.

And sometimes, uh, uh, even in the, the moment, if we can create a little distance from what you're doing and have an awareness that you are, you are there and you are, you are in a sense, an actor playing a role in this particular setting. That separation allows you to manage the the day to day. Like, or the moment by moment stressors that often will lead to concepts like burnout.

And, you know, the, um, we have this, uh, idea of like empathy, like empathy fatigue, um, and alarm fatigue. Things that are really common in that setting. And I, I find that, uh, if we can focus on rather the relationships we have within [00:18:00] our environment and the people that we work with and supporting them, then that'll translate to that.

To, we'll call it happier or more satisfied patients and, and in turn a more satisfied work environment. 'cause it'll, it'll feed back bidirectionally, so, 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Hmm. Very cool. Yeah. Thank you Alan. Um, I'm gonna be relatively quick here from a play perspective. I mean, it's very cliche as well, but you have children.

Yeah. And you have no choice but to have to like roll around on the, on the ground with them because they have to do that, that's what they do. It's fun to have kids, especially when you're, uh, when you're really kind of have a hard time setting yourself up to find any time for, to do anything other than the things you need to do.

So having kids could be great. Kids could be stressful. Of course, having kids and you know, all of you, all three of you don't have them, so you don't know. But, um, but they, it's extremely stressful, but it can be fine. 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: Are you kidding me? I have, I have three of you right now, [00:19:00] 

Dr. Scott Sherr: and you're very, you guys are very stressful.

Yes. You're willing. Yes. By way of. This is true. So, so having, 

Dr. Allen Bookatz: having kids 

Dr. Scott Sherr: can be very helpful because it can be, you know, really having the, the, the opportunity to see like your 8-year-old that just wants to look at baseball cards and wants to look at stats of like every home run and every walk. And he's like, well, what, what about this guy?

And then talking about the Mets and the Yankees and like, this is stuff that I don't ever think about anymore, but I did when I was his age. And it's kind of fun just to kind of get into his mind for a minute and then see just y'all. It's all, it's all fun stuff. It's all good stuff. Except when he is imagining spiders that are trying to eat him after watching a, a Mandalorian or something, uh, episode.

I 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: know a solution to that. Scott. Well, Shane, here's a, here's a digital avatar of me. It can answer all of your questions about baseball stats and send pictures of the, you know, parenting Don Wright and then the, the spiders that you're afraid of. Here they are, you know, they're not venomous, and these are the venomous ones.

You see that that's gonna be solved by a digital [00:20:00] avatar. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: That's probably gonna happen soon, and it's gonna be a scary world if we're just looking at screens all day instead of our parents. Or maybe our parents are already looking at screens all day except for, except not our children. But maybe that's what's happening already.

But, um, the other thing that I would, I would, I would mention, and yeah, I find it really important, is movement as well. I'm not a jujitsu guy. I, I don't, um, have that drive. But even just getting out and walking, I find, especially in the summertime here in Colorado, the weather's beautiful. Just getting outside and before everybody else wakes up in the morning is a great way to kind of reset and not feel like you just kind of get dumped into the day, which can feel like it's kind of coming at you, especially on Mondays, um, at a, at a million miles an hour.

So I, I like getting up moving. And since I'm not working at the hospital anymore, you know that, that I used to work and walk a lot when I was there. And so I was used to that kind of cadence. And now having to be in one location, I just need to force myself or actually, you know, create ways to move throughout the day, which has been.

Really nice way to, I wouldn't call it play per se, but it kind of is because it really is getting outta [00:21:00] your head and listening to a cool song that I've, that we've, uh, that we've developed over the years or that we've made either just for fun or even when I was a kid and listen to some rock and roll that, you know, I used to make, or, you know, that I used to listen to all the time.

So I think that's what I would say. So, but Dr. Ted. What is your, what is your answer to this? Very well, 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: you, you said nuance kids. Right? And the, the thing about US adults is that we really have forgotten how to play. Uh, and as kids, they do it naturally, right? So if you observe them, when I observe them. You know, like you're in the mall or you're, you're walking and you see children around, they just naturally play, right?

Uh, they're not structured, uh, into the, oh, I have to pay my mortgage and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, for them, it's all natural and. You know, uh, I was, I was doing this till, till, uh, early adulthood, you know, they, if kids invent games all the time, right? So, um, what, what I do, if I were walking on [00:22:00] the tile on floor, for example, and, uh, the tiles were evenly, uh, uh, spread out between black and white, I would just step on the black tiles, right?

And make, make a game out of it. Right. So, or when I would be in a, in, in a store is that I would just pick the farthest jar, you know, of what I needed rather than getting what's in front. You know, it's, it's like, it's like you are irritated that, you know, uh, you can't find something and you find something.

It's a very back of, of the. Of the shelf. Right. And you make that a game. So if you can't find something, let Okay, you lose. Right. So it, it, it's the natural gam gamification, uh, of life. But there's one principle that I actually follow to play because, you know, a dear friend of mines, uh, once told me my life, my work, what's the difference, right?

And, um, I, I let my, um. Curiosity drive me. You know, uh, you guys know, I've already stated this. My, uh, my hobby is, uh, epistemic foraging. [00:23:00] So I, you know, I, I, I love hunting, right? For, for, uh, information that's out there, or even just data sets, you know, that I, I, I can, uh, transform into information and, you know, finding the patterns in them gives me a lot of joy, and that's.

That's fun for me. But in the end, when you take a look at it, uh, and you guys have seen this, you know, I, I've told you this, it's like life, my life is a game. I treat it like a video game, right? So the first thing is that unlike a video game in this life, you only got one. You're not like a cat with nine lives.

Right? Right. So, you know, for me it's don't take any unnecessary risks, right? So my, my, you know, when, when I'm driving. Someone cuts me off. I don't go chase and cut other person off because I dunno whether or not there's a gun in his gun right there. And he'll just shoot me. Okay, so, so, uh, these are the elements of life as a game for me is that [00:24:00] life you only have one and then the other one is your health.

Right. Uh, in health optimization medicine, we do this, but you know, in Pacman where you have to eat all of these things in order to gain, uh, strength or to gain, uh, tools and, and, uh, weapons, et cetera, et cetera. So, you know, and this is where I get my attitude towards, I don't care how, how bad it is, as long as it's good for me.

So, so you, you actually have to eat and you have actively to actually do that, right? To have to search for things. And, uh, when I started health optimization medicine practice is exactly what I wanted to do, right? So it's like, which ones are actually good for me and which ones do don't I need to take?

Right? There are things that when you hit in, in the game, you know, you, uh, basically get dinged with your, with your, um, uh, in your score. And that would be something like alcohol, right? Uh, you know, or, or, um, uh, you, you hit something like you were just sedentary for like, you know, three hours [00:25:00] straight without.

You know, without, uh, taking a walk or something like that, right? So, so that's the, the health part, right? So, uh, I have patients and clients who say, uh, to me, you know, no, doctor, I couldn't take care of myself. I have to take care of my kids first. And what I usually say is, like, even in the, in, uh, in an airport, in a, in an airplane, you're told that you know the oxygen mask, you put it on yourself first before you put it on others like your kids.

Right. And that's what, uh, we do in health optimization. It's like, well take a look at yourself first. How can you take care of others without taking care of yourself first? Right? Um, and then, uh, the last one is, uh, actually time. So it's life, health and time. So the, the three things in a video game, right?

So, so if you, of course, when, when, when, when, with. You know when you get hit by a bus and you die this game over your time's up. Right? And, uh, uh, but when you take care of your health, uh, uh, and so on, bearing, bearing any [00:26:00] unforeseen circumstances, uh, of death, right? Your statistical probability of living longer is, is better, right?

And, but what I'd like to emphasize here is like, you never know when your time's up because you never know what you're gonna hit, right? So the quality of life, uh, for health organization medicine actually, um, uh, is actually. Uh, what we're after, right? And the longevity becomes a side effect, right? Uh, longevity is your side effect.

You're living a high quality life. Now, time actually, uh. You know, uh, I got this, I, I said, I find, I find my truth wherever I can find it, even if I find it in a trash can, you know, that's in summer book that you guys know. And this actually came from Ash Ashton Kutcher. Uh, for people. He said that people's texts that the people's texts to you are other people's to do.

To-do lists for you. Scott loves doing that. You know, here, Ted, this is what you're gonna do. Like, you're gonna be in a [00:27:00] podcast at noon, you're gonna be at another podcast at nine tonight, and you're gonna do so people says, other people do things for you. So the first thing I encourage you is actually a lot fine for yourself, right?

All the three of, uh, you know, obviously Dr. Buca, Dr. Cher, Dr. Kuper, they, they all. Find time to unwind. Right. And it's different for everyone. Like, uh, I know, I, I, I know. Uh, heads of state to actually come home from work and play Nintendo or play a, a PlayStation or something like that to, to decompress for about 30 minutes to an hour, right?

So it's a, a different type of play for different people, and the use of the play is actually different, right? One is to decompress, right? One is actually for your health. Like, uh, you know, you, uh, on weekends say you, you play tennis or squash or, uh, any of these games, right? Um, and that also fills your, uh, your social, um, not only social obligations, [00:28:00] but the, the human need for social connection, right?

Uh, which some of us don't. Uh, you know, uh, because I prefer the company of books to the company of people because their thoughts are more well organized and so, so, so you take care of your life and then your health and then your time. A lot. You, you know, there are so many, uh, theories of aging that we know, right?

One of them is like, like, uh, is is actually quite interest. The number of heartbeats is, is fixed. And so I said, okay, so I'll just take beta blockers then so that my, my heartbeat would, would increase, right? One is a mitochondrial fear aging. You take, uh, take care of mitochondria, right? Because they're the energy producers and so on.

And all of this have something to do with time. Right. And in this dimensional space, you know, time is the fourth dimension. And for us, since we have a lifecycles, biological organisms, you know, it's not like the share share song. If I could turn backs time, right? You can. So [00:29:00] if you live your life now in a healthy way, right, and you, you measure the things that you need nutritionally or ally or uh, everything else, right?

Then your time to disease will be. Less. Right? Uh, and that's called morbid decompression, right? So you live life in a healthy way, and then you finally get sick and it's just a, a, a few days hopefully, you know, and then, and then you die, right? And other people say, oh, the morbid decompression is. A myth? No, actually it isn't.

You know, because I've seen this, uh, in my patients and in my clients, right? So, and even the recovery post-surgery is very fast. So, so imagine if you have a patient who has a very fast recovery from surgery. And I had this one, uh, in a 92-year-old, right? Um. And, and uh, uh, you know, was walking within, uh, within six hours, uh, of, of, of the surgery and so on.

Just imagine how sooner she was able to get back to her place and enjoy [00:30:00] her children and her grandchildren and her great-grandchildren. Right? So just an added bonus to her life because she was healthy to begin with. So, so, so, life, health and time. You, this is the time. That's my, my, my, my, uh, the three elements of life is a game.

So, and that's how plays for me. If you treat life as a game, then you know that there are big wins and there be losses and you won't. Have any regrets for your losses, but rather, you know, uh, what you be begin to do is to think statistically at how many wins you have, right? Uh, in, in terms of, uh, in terms of life.

Because that's how, uh, how you learn, right? Uh, from, from the wins and the losses, et cetera. And that's the fun of living, right? And that's a play if you take, you're too serious about life, you know? You better poke something up your ass. So, because she's too tight ass to live. Yes. Right? Yeah. So if you try to control life that strongly, and as, uh, one of our favorite, [00:31:00] uh, uh, uh, teachers said, you know, Ram does said, uh, no, it's Alan Watts actually said, it's like a dance, you know, life is like a dance.

You know, you, you don't hold the tightly. Right. You don't have to be tight as about it and control everything because then you can't dance, right? Or you, you, you, uh, can't, uh, actually, um, hold too loosely, otherwise your partner will fall away, right? Mm-hmm. Rather just the enough, you know, just enough in order to be able to dance to the music, you know, and enjoy the music as you dance.

Dr. Scott Sherr: So that's the 

Dr. Ted Achacoso: game. 

Dr. Scott Sherr: Split. Well, I think gonna have to Ted at that, Ted, as usual. Um, I know that we, we could talk, but there's nothing else to say, so I'll give you the mic drop there. Um, the, the, the, the name of the podcast is Smarter Not Harder, and Dr. Ted just gave you exactly the Remedy or the, the, the cookbook.

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